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Nilay Patel

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Nilay Patel hosts Version History .

Recently: “TI-84: Monopoly math” on Version History (September 2026); “Nest: The iPod of thermostats” on Version History (June 2026); “Harmony remote: Control freak” on Version History (June 2026); “Western Electric 500: Monopoly phone” on Version History (April 2026); “Macintosh: All in one” on Version History (March 2026); “TiVo: Press pause” on Version History (January 2026).

What They Said

“I don't think you get to monopoly your way into this unless you're monopolying your way with a good product. Like if you have a really good product and then you do a bunch of shady shit, I can get past it. So the iPhone. But if you make this, and it's fine, and then you essentially don't touch it for 40 years, and you spend all of your actual energy on making sure that no one else can defeat you, I don't think you belong in the Hall of Fame.” — Nilay Patel, Version History

Version History votes every gadget it covers into or out of a Hall of Fame, and this episode was about the TI-84 graphing calculator. The hosts had spent the hour on how Texas Instruments held the market — lobbying, textbook and exam standardisation, a button layout schools taught to — rather than by improving the machine. This is Patel's vote against it, with the iPhone named as the kind of product that earns forgiveness for bad behaviour.

Version History · 2026-09-20 Permalink → Listen →
Version History Around 1:12:48 into the episode
David Pierce

the deciding vote.

Victoria Song

The cosine function. Got it. Nailed it.

Nilay Patel

I'm going to say no. I just don't know. I don't think you get to monopoly your way into this unless you're monopolying your way with a good product. Like if you have a really good product and then you do a bunch of shady shit, I can get past it. So the iPhone. But if you make this and it's fine and then you essentially don't touch it for 40 years and you spend all of your actual energy on making sure that no one else can defeat you, I don't think you belong in the Hall of Fame. Do

Victoria Song

you think the calculator division and TI is just a bunch of lawyers and accountants?

Nilay Patel

I think there's a strong chance there is no one left in the calculator division at TI. It's

Victoria Song

just like. One Mac Mini running claw. That's exactly right. Just ordering stuff.

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