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Angie Jones

Angie Jones

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Angie Jones has been a guest on Whiskey Web and Whatnot (2 times) , MLOps.community , CodeNewbie , Test & Code , Front End Happy Hour , The New Stack Podcast , Practical AI , Hanselminutes with Scott Hanselman and JS Party: JavaScript, CSS, Web Development .

Recently: “The Next Essential Developer Skill: Building AI Agents” on The New Stack Podcast (November 2026); “Walking Tokyo Talking Agent Protocols” on MLOps.community (September 2026); “Building the Foundation for the Agentic AI Era” on Practical AI (August 2026); “Open Source, Agents, and the Next AI Wave w/ Angie Jones” on Whiskey Web and Whatnot (November 2025); “Decentralized Identity: The Future of Privacy and Security with Angie Jones” on Whiskey Web and Whatnot (January 2025); “Episode 204 - Sips of Wisdom: Interview with Angie Jones” on Front End Happy Hour (August 2024).

What They Said

“All day long, we can say, you need to use AI. That is not convincing to people. But if you can show, hey, I can produce twice, three times, 10 times as much work as before, and not just any kind of work, but work that moves the needle, that actually solves customer problems and is of high quality, no one can argue against that.” — Angie Jones, The New Stack Podcast

Frederic Lardinois asked for tips for managers pushing AI adoption. Angie Jones, who led AI enablement at Block, says visible results ended the need to push people.

The New Stack Podcast · 2026-11-11 Permalink → Listen →
The New Stack Podcast Around 10:48 into the episode
Angie Jones

It's change management.

Frederic Lardinois

Yeah, yeah. Do you have some tips for how to handle that? If I'm a manager, maybe. Yeah,

Angie Jones

yeah, I do actually. I think it's really important for the results. So I took an approach. I remember this model. It came to mind as I was trying to figure out our AI enablement strategy. And it's the 1990 model where in any given community, whether that be a social media platform or internet or anything like that, 1% are going to be the people that actually produce the content. There'll be 9% that'll tinker, you know, and then the vast majority of that 90% consume. Right. And when I thought about that in terms of AI enablement, I said, I have to find the 1%. And that's what I gathered. So out of 3,500, I had 50 of these engineers who needed to look across the entire organization, our 25,000 repos, and figure out how do we do AI here. Right. And that, like I said, built it into the system. But also what was most important is the results. So all day long, we can say, you need to use AI. That is not convincing to people, you know? But if you can show, hey, I can produce twice, three times, 10 times as much work as before, and not just any kind of work, but work that moves the needle, that actually solves customer…

Frederic Lardinois

Yeah. And then they use up all your tokens as in the process.

Angie Jones

Yes.

Frederic Lardinois

You do, you know, you're in the leadership of an open source foundation now. So let's talk about this in the context of open source as well, because different, you know, different fractions exist in that world when it comes to using AI for development and being a developer right now, right? How do…

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“We're fine with them using their agent. But now … we actually switched to an issue-first model. So don't just put up a PR, but make an issue. Let's talk about the problem and the direction that we want to take with the maintainers, collaborate on the design. And then who cares? Your agent, my agent, the implementation is trivial.” — Angie Jones, The New Stack Podcast

Angie Jones maintains the open source project Goose and says most contributions now come with an AI agent's help. This is how the project responds to a flood of low-quality pull requests.

The New Stack Podcast · 2026-11-11 Permalink → Listen →
The New Stack Podcast Around 13:53 into the episode
Angie Jones

majority. I would say in the 90th percentile, like vast majority. And we had to make a statement to say, we know you're going to use your agent. In fact, we expect it. We would be silly to say you couldn't work on an AI. It's a genetic AI

Frederic Lardinois

foundation. That's right.

Angie Jones

And so, yeah, we're fine with them using their agent. But now the question has become: we actually switched to an issue first model. So don't just put up a PR, but make an issue. Let's talk about the problem and the direction that we want to take with the maintainers, collaborate on the design. And then who cares? Your agent, my agent, the implementation is trivial.

Frederic Lardinois

Yeah, yeah. What about like how are you managing, like the speed has increased as well for these projects now, right? There's so many more of these contributions, right? Yeah, that's even if you go this issue first approach.

Angie Jones

There is. So we've had to use agents ourselves to help us maintain. Steve Yegi wrote a fascinating article. If anybody wants to go on the deep end with this, it's called Vibe Maintainer. We're not quite at Vibe Maintainer level, but he has agents that basically do the triaging. They'll patch up the…

Frederic Lardinois

I'm sure. Well, you're not running the full gas town. Not just

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