Gavin Purcell

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Emmy-winning showrunner, writer and creative executive with a background on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon, now focused on explaining AI tools and news with humor. Covers AI video, agents, vibe coding and new model releases. Co-founder and co-host of AI For Humans with Kevin Pereira. Appears on Last Week in AI, The Milk Road Show, Barron's Streetwise and Daily Tech News Show.

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Gavin Purcell hosts and writes AI For Humans: Weekly AI News, Tools & Trends and hosts Last Week in AI . They have also been a guest on The Milk Road Show (2 times) , Barron's Streetwise and Daily Tech News Show .

Recently: “AI Is Moving Too Fast. Two New Models In Two Weeks?!” on AI For Humans: Weekly AI News, Tools & Trends (October 2026); “AI Just Broke The Internet. For Real This Time.” on AI For Humans: Weekly AI News, Tools & Trends (October 2026); “Gemini 4 & Meta's Muse Wonder Are Good. Not Great.” on AI For Humans: Weekly AI News, Tools & Trends (October 2026); “AI Is Breaking Software & Games. What Happens Next?” on AI For Humans: Weekly AI News, Tools & Trends (October 2026); “AI put Minecraft in Skyrim (and OpenAI had a Dev Day)” on AI For Humans: Weekly AI News, Tools & Trends (October 2026); “Opus 5.5 is our favorite AI model (so far).” on AI For Humans: Weekly AI News, Tools & Trends (September 2026).

What They Said

Google had previewed a second flagship model in two weeks, but only trusted cyber-defense partners could use it. His co-host noted it beats available models on benchmarks; Gavin says he won't believe it until he can actually use it.

AI For Humans: Weekly AI News, Tools & Trends · 2026-10-30 Permalink → Listen →
AI For Humans: Weekly AI News, Tools & Trends Around 15:29 into the episode
Gavin Purcell

don't mean anything to me until I actually get my hands. Like, yes. Yeah.

Kevin Pereira

…old Argon, which was again two weeks old, down below. You know, people are saying Carbon is a clear winner. It seems to do a better job with the overall fidelity of the screen, the parallax scrolling, the graphics themselves. Hard to judge it, though, right? Hard to judge and buy some visual stuff.

Gavin Purcell

No one knows. This is why like Opus 5.5 continues to impress me as how they rolled it out and what it was. Your models, you should wait until, I feel like this very strongly about this now. You should wait to talk about your models until they are in the hands of everybody. Because this idea that we get this column of benchmarks that say, hey, it's whatever, 10% better than X, Y, and Z has now proven again and again and again, not to be the practical use cases, not just for us who are doing, you know, semi-dumb stuff or things that we are kind of experimenting with, but also for the high-end people. So I really want Google to release this to the to wide so that I can use it. I might even pay for, we're going to talk about this Gemini 4, sorry, Genie 4 stuff in a bit that I might pay for the $100 model to access, but I am not going to pay $100 until I know I get access to Genie 4 and this new model. Obviously, maybe they rushed out this new AI because they were worried about the stock price thing. They were worried about having to do results. But for right now, Google, show it to me first, and then I'll…

Kevin Pereira

Well, the genie is out of the bottle now. Let's talk about it. The genie's out of the bottle. From Google Deep Mind. Do I write headlines for The Verge or what? No, you really got it. They're claiming it's their most realistic and interactive world model yet. And we've covered every iteration of…

Gavin Purcell

Yeah, there's a lot of really cool examples out there. There's a couple of people that were in the kind of trusted users version of this. And again, it is not rolled out wide yet, but Ethan Mollock, who has a great new book out, you should go get Ethan Mollock, was able to like get a mouse serving…

Kevin Pereira

Yes. Can this AI video system be interactive game? Can it be a live streaming event that multiple people are involved with and I'm seeing the same thing interacting with it? Can it be the metaverse? Can it be the Grand Theft Auto 40? Seriously, where I'm driving the car and then I say to my buddy…

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