Gruber was describing the argument he has at family gatherings with relatives convinced their phones listen to them. What actually happens — tracking pixels across a thousand partners, correlations nobody can explain — is creepier than eavesdropping, and he finds that framing is the only one that lands. He raised it while questioning whether Apple's new listening features on the Watch will be perceived as private, whatever the engineering guarantees.
yeah so what I have found works in that regard is by saying that what they actually do is creepier if you understood it and that I barely understand it but that it is creepier that's what resonates because I'm not saying hey the whole tech industry is on your side and doesn't do creepy things
right you're saying it's worse telling worse than what you think right
and if you talk to people who work in the ad tech industry they honest to go if they could have recordings of what you talk about all day they wouldn't want it they're like we don't need that you know how much work that would be and how much space that would take up why would we want that we don't need that it would be the least efficient way to serve you targeted ads it's but that's the world apple's up against apple doesn't do it but that's the world people people are in the other thing i want to before we move on from apple watch the other thing that i'm wondering about with these features is i'm just honestly wondering how well they'll work at a technical level because i do think siri ai is very good on the phone and on the mac and i do think that their plan they announced at wwdc totally works i think it is a step change forward they have caught up to baseline modern llm that's the bar right it's not anywhere close to the frontier it is not going to blow anything away that you're if you're used to the leading edge models from chat gpt and claude and they never said it was right it does what they said and it is baseline competent and can answer amazingly interesting questions based on your email and your iMessages and your apple notes and whatever other apps publish their data in a way that can be indexed and you can just ask questions like hey what was the serial number of my iPhone 16 that I bought two years ago because I want to get the refund from Apple's AI refund thing and it'll just tell you your serial number if it's in your email that stuff works I don't think Siri just regular Siri works very well on Apple Watch and I still don't think it does it is slow I don't think you can have conversations it does not seem to me to be a good AI device just for regular Siri and yet now they're saying which so the watch still hasn't caught up to that in my experience and they're saying it's gonna give me daily summaries of every conversation I've had that that but only the interesting ones
right so it puts your summaries into the Siri AI app so you can open your phone and see so I guess I'm I didn't ask this question but I'm curious is the phone doing any of this work or is it I think the phone must be doing
I think the phone must be doing the transcription but they don't want to talk about that they don't want to explain I think they should. I think they should draw a diagram. Honest to God, like the vibration of the data. Yeah, like WWDC, or the way that, like, I remember Phil Schiller doing one with one of the iPhone cameras where they talked about the focus pixels on the sensor. And he was like, this might be a lot of detail for this type of event, but I love this stuff. And I think you want to know it. And he spent like two minutes talking about a new sensor technology that let them get a sharper image. Give us some diagrams of how this works. But I don't know. I'm just show me when it I'll believe it when I see it that this works well.
Right, right. That's a good point. I do agree. Siri is so much better, but I have you not seen any regressions in any areas