Claire L. Evans

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Award-winning Los Angeles-based writer of video games, science articles, weird pop songs and books (in no particular order).

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Claire L. Evans writes New_ Public and writes Wired . They have also been a guest on co—matter , Command Line Heroes and TechStuff . They also write for Wild Information and YACHT on Substack.

Recently: “Lab-Grown Brain Organoids Are Playing Video Games” on TechStuff (September 2026); “AI Is Dead. Organoids Are Alive” on Wired (August 2026); “Claire L. Evans: Wild Information” on co—matter (May 2025); “The word for web is forest” on New_ Public (September 2021); “🌳 What can the Internet learn from trees?” on New_ Public (September 2021); “Connecting the Dot-Com” on Command Line Heroes (March 2021).

What They Said

“The AI community is all for it. They're so ready to ascribe sentience to absolutely anything — put a couple of googly eyes on a laptop and all of a sudden it's a person.” — Claire L. Evans, TechStuff

Evans wrote the WIRED piece "AI Is Dead, Organoids Are Alive" and came on TechStuff to talk about computers made from lab-grown human neurons. She had just explained that researchers in the field bristle at the phrase "mini brains": a human brain has about 171 billion cells and an organoid maybe five million. Asked who is willing to call them brains anyway, she pointed at AI people rather than biologists.

TechStuff · 2026-09-23 Permalink → Listen →
TechStuff Around 15:05 into the episode
Speaker 2

…capacity comes at this scale that is maybe not legible at such a small scale. There's also long been this sort of ambivalence, I guess, or even like outright distaste on the part of the scientific community for talking about questions of consciousness or sentience or even really intelligence.

Speaker 1

Not from the AI community.

Speaker 2

Well, the AI community is all for it. They think they're so ready to ascribe sentience to absolutely anything. you know, put a couple googly eyes on a laptop and all of a sudden it's a person.

Speaker 1

Let me ask you about the headline of the piece, AI is dead, organoids are alive. I mean, I guess your editor chose the headline, but is that, what are your thoughts on it?

Speaker 2

I mean, I think there is something really interesting about the way that neurons process information that silicon systems will never be able to achieve. I mean, neurons have the capacity to grow and prune their synapses based on their experience of the world. I mean, In the case of an organoid…

Speaker 1

The chips aren't but the models are.

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