“I had a thousand-day streak on Duolingo, but I couldn't have this kind of conversation. I wouldn't know what to say. I'm stuck at "I'm a man" or "this is a phone." I took the Norwegian exams and I passed. As soon as I came out of the exam hall, I deleted Duolingo, because I was like, nah, this is just completely useless.”
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Claire Vo asked how long William Imoh had been learning Norwegian before building his own app. He explains why a long Duolingo streak left him unable to hold a conversation, which is what pushed him to build a voice tutor with Codex.
So, I started learning Norwegian. I mean, I had a thousand-day streak on Duolingo.
Yeah, okay, so you had a little bit of a good start.
Yes, but I couldn't have this kind of conversation. I wouldn't know what to say. I'm stuck at I'm a man, or this is a phone, you know. So, I wouldn't be able to hold a conversation. Um, and then I took the Norwegian, I took the Norwegian language exams and I took a course for like a week, like a short course for a week, just so I understood like grammar. Um, I took the exams, I passed. As soon as I came out of like the exam hall, I deleted Duolingo because I was like, nah, this is just completely useless. And I tried it, and that was my like my motivation to build something like Murrow started after that. So, Mural just helped me get better at practicing my Norwegian in different like settings. And, you know, this is I could talk about like the weekend. Um, I can also see like the words that I've learned and how well I've you know, I've gone with like with each one. Every time you introduce flashcards, for instance, in case I want to practice like the words, words, yeah, exactly. Um, and I also have themes because at the end of the day, you want to be able to speak these languages within a particular…
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So the honest answer, yeah, but I just chugging into like my token budget, right? I made it open source so anyone can run it. And it currently costs around it'll cost about $5 to chat with Muru for, I think, for 30 minutes. Yeah, so for about 30 minutes, it's going to cost $5 in. Now it's going to…
what I'll also say is that it's less expensive than a one-on-one tutor. And you can't call your tutor to your house in the middle of the night and say, I'm ready to practice some Norwegian. So it's so cool. Okay, we're going to do a couple more workflows. We'll get you out of here. So aside from…