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Dhaval Adjodah

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Dhaval Adjodah has been a guest on a16z Podcast .

Recently: “The Race to Recursive Self-Improving AI” on a16z Podcast (October 2026).

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“What we found is that a lot of the papers that claim to do RSI, when we test it in our internal infra, we find that they don't work. And a lot of it is because they're cool ideas that humans try to introspect… They're complicated. They sound cool. They get you a good paper. But then when we test it at scale, on benchmarks on real economic problems, they don't scale. And what we found is that the simpler thing that closes the loop is the thing that scales.” — Dhaval Adjodah, a16z Podcast

Adjodah's startup is working on recursive self-improvement (RSI), AI systems that improve themselves. He says most published methods fail when his team replicates them, and that starting from a grounded mathematical framework works better.

a16z Podcast · 2026-10-12 Permalink → Listen →
a16z Podcast Around 15:26 into the episode
Dhaval Adjodah

Yeah.

Speaker 3

For sure, improving the numerator is good. I've yet to see, which is great that you have glimmers, where you can improve both the numerator and the denominator. I mean, that's a pretty meaningful statement, which is awesome.

Dhaval Adjodah

What we found is that a lot of the papers that claim to do RSI, when we test it in our internal infra, we find that they don't work. And a lot of it is because they're cool ideas that humans try to introspect and say, oh, you know, this is what I think should happen. They're complicated. They sound cool. They get you a good paper. But then when we test it at scale, you know, on benchmarks on real economic problems, they don't scale. And what we found is that the simpler thing that closes the loop is the thing that scales. I would say one thing that we do that's probably unique is that we always start…

Owen He

I think Richard Feynman said once that there are two kinds of sciences, there's a stamp collections and then there are physics. So without a unified math framework, all these research are sort of just stamp collections. You could, like a lot of this paper we're reading, they're just ideas inspired…

Speaker 3

see. I see. So

Owen He

for example, there are people who are doing recursive improvements just on harness and then there are people who are only doing on weights. But weights and harnesses are not isolated components. They have impact on each other.

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