“If you look at a real macro view, what have we done for two decades? We've secured humans. Now the population of the world has basically gone 10x, because we've also got agents to deal with. Everyone has to start taking agents into consideration.”
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The two were discussing endpoint tooling that would watch AI agents making outbound connections, such as dumping company data somewhere to persist a task. Adam frames agents as a new population security teams now have to cover, alongside human users.
I love what they're doing. I met the founders over there. It's really, really cool. Yeah, it's a really good, it's a super cool tech for sure.
Look, that's not to say that having some basic controls around like domain allow listing and whatever based on this software that you're building. I mean, that is a good idea. We're going to need that as well. But it's just like, man, trying to control these things is hard.
You know how I see this, dude? It's like, you know, it's easy when you start talking about adding agents. And it's like, oh my goodness, everyone's competing. But the kind of way I've thought, if you look at a real macro view, what have we done for two decades? We've secured humans. So on that level, everyone's competing. Like, we're stopping humans doing dumb stuff. And now what's happened is like basically the population of the world's like 10x because we've also got agents to deal with now. So it's like everyone has to start taking agents into consideration.
It's the thing that we've always been worst at in security, right? It's like actually looking after malicious insiders or insiders doing the wrong things. So, you know, I think at the end of this another few years, we're going to be a lot better at that. But the next question I was going to ask was…
Yeah, I mean, the gap of what you need a full browser for is closing pretty radically. Like you said, browser extension ecosystem is just getting better and better. Once you're on the endpoint sensor, the sky is the limit. If the two can communicate together, you can just do a ton of stuff. As you…
Yeah, that's it. That's it. All right, man, we're going to wrap it up there. Adam Bateman, it's always such a pleasure to see you, my friend. I think we'll be recording a product demo too before the year is out. So, I'll be seeing you again soon. But thank you very much for joining me for a long…