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Lee Salisbury

Lee Salisbury

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Lee Salisbury hosts Talking Pools Podcast .

Recently: “Busy Doesn’t Mean Profitable: Put Down the Price Gun and Know Your Numbers” on Talking Pools Podcast (October 2026); “Forgot the Hose? Water Damage, Floating Pools & the Chlorine Merry-Go-Round” on Talking Pools Podcast (October 2026); ““I Just Test the Water” Won’t Cut It: Entrapment, Bad Plumbing & Professional Responsibility” on Talking Pools Podcast (October 2026); ““Chlorine-Free” With a Chlorinator? SPASA Takes on Pool Sanitizer Claims” on Talking Pools Podcast (September 2026); “Workplace Safety: It’s Not a Problem Until It’s a Problem” on Talking Pools Podcast (September 2026); “Can Your Pool Business Survive Without You?” on Talking Pools Podcast (September 2026).

What They Said

“A 50% markup is only a 33% margin, and if my overhead costs are at 35%, I'm making a loss. You're in trouble. … Every bag of salt you sell means you're going backwards.” — Lee Salisbury, Talking Pools Podcast

Salisbury, who coaches pool-shop owners, works through an example: a $10 bag of salt marked up 50% and sold for about $16.50 with GST. Her point is that many retailers confuse markup with margin and run loss leaders without knowing it, so they can finish a busy summer having made no money.

Talking Pools Podcast · 2026-10-18 Permalink → Listen →
Talking Pools Podcast Around 36:45 into the episode
Lee Salisbury

…for that too vehicles all your vehicle costs your Regio, your fuel, your servicing, your lease payments the whole lot your insurances, your utilities so electricity, water, internet, phone, computer software, all of it we include bookkeeping marketing, the whole lot they've all gone up as well.

SPEAKER_00

They've all gone up every one of them everything. Electricity electricity something that you know has gone up massively here.

Lee Salisbury

…it that's$15 now that I'm charging that out for plus I've got to then put GST on it$1.50 so that then becomes $1650. And$16.50 is probably not too far from a lot what a lot of people are charging on salt. So then you go though 50% markup is only a 33% margin and if my overhead costs are at 35% I'm making a loss you're in trouble. You're in trouble every bag of salt means you're going backwards every bag of salt you sell means you're going backwards. So and that's okay if that's a decision you want to make in your business to be a lost leader but the the the the whole point of having lost leaders is that you then sell other products and those other products are at a higher margin that covers the loss on that product. So very very important that people are aware of it. So the difference between markup and margin knowing the difference between…

SPEAKER_00

So that's exactly it summer's upon us it's upon us and you everyone's going to get busier and busier and things are going to be walking out the door and if no one's making any money by the time wintertime comes it quitens off again there'll be no there'll be no buffer there.

Lee Salisbury

No that's exactly it and I I I know this happens to a lot of businesses. They go but I'm really busy and they and they go and there's money in the bank so I must be doing well that does not equate to profit. It does not equate to profit and so it's it's really important that busy does not…

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

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