Kara Swisher asked about the season-three twist in The Diplomat, in which Russell's character is passed over for vice president in favor of her husband. Russell says being humiliated on screen is the best thing that can happen to a character.
But now she gets to be, I mean, I don't know what scene it is or what episode, but towards the end of this season, there's a point where she looks at him and she goes, watch yourself. And you're like, oh, yeah. And I think she just relishes being mean because she doesn't do that in her real life.
…in a major twist in season three, Grace chooses Hal as her vice president when your character thinks they're getting the role and were groomed for the role. When you thought about that twist, it was a great twist. Oh, so but about women in power after all that preparation that goes to the husband.
Yeah. Well, okay, a million things. Number one, for an actor, for a character, it's the best because you always want to be losing. Losing is way more interesting than someone who's winning all the time. Winning is boring to watch, but to lose, that was so humiliating. Even to just do the scene is so humiliating. You've built yourself up. You've given yourself this little tiny idea that actually, maybe I do want to do it. Maybe I do want this job. Yeah, she did. And then to have it like swept away from you in such a humiliating way was delicious. But in reality, are they really going to have a country who can't elect even one woman? You're going to have two women? No, no way. So you're going to choose the handsome guy who's a better counterpart for her. So it does make sense, but it's still awful.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, no, it is. You could see because she wanted it. She actually did. And we acknowledge it. Now, season four premieres today. Bring us up to speed. Who is she in season four and what's she dealing with?
Season four. So season three. Ended with Kate and Hal stealing the nuke. Stealing the nuke and
not letting Kate in on it.