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Jonathan Halliwell

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Professor of theoretical physics at Imperial College London, working on the foundations of quantum theory, including decoherence, quantum cosmology, and tests for macroscopic quantum coherence such as Leggett-Garg inequalities. Appeared as a guest on The Joy of Why, hosted by Steven Strogatz, discussing why physicists keep testing quantum theory and what alternative pictures like Bohmian mechanics would mean.

Where to Find Them

Jonathan Halliwell has been a guest on The Joy of Why .

Recently: “Where Does the Quantum World End and Ours Begin?” on The Joy of Why (September 2026).

What They Said

“…I don't believe in truth. I believe in multiple perspectives.” — Jonathan Halliwell, The Joy of Why

Steven Strogatz asks why physicists keep testing a theory that no experiment has ever contradicted. Halliwell objects to colleagues in quantum foundations who told him the work is pointless because quantum physics is simply true, calling that a kind of fundamentalism. He then walks through what Bell and Leggett-Garg tests rule out and through Bohmian mechanics, a picture in which the world is definite but non-local, before landing here.

The Joy of Why · 2026-09-17 Permalink → Listen →
The Joy of Why Around 36:38 into the episode
Jonathan Halliwell

…for one of these big interferometries experiments with big particles to really say this is definitely quantum and not pseudo-classical, you'd need to violate a Leggett-Gog inequality, basically. That can all be done in principle. I mean, even just with the data from existing experiments, basically.

Steven Strogatz

…really, but I bet you have a strong opinion, which is so far, no experiment has contradicted quantum mechanics or quantum field theory. I'm not sure how far we should push this. So why do we keep testing it? What are we hoping to learn by pushing these quantum tests to larger and larger systems?

Jonathan Halliwell

…for the particle can depend on very distant observers. It basically says it's an entanglement situation with distant particles, that one particle really can depend on what the other one is doing or what you measure on the other particle. But that might be it. I mean, you can have a world in which everything is definite, but it's non-local. And that might also be true, actually. So, that's why I don't believe in truth. I believe in multiple perspectives.

Steven Strogatz

Do you want to expand on that idea? In some of my preparation for our conversation, I was told you have an interest and have practiced things like yoga, meditation. Is that related to the sorts of perspectives you're describing here?

Jonathan Halliwell

It's not directly related, but in terms of the sort of attitude and perspective I take towards physics and scientific ideas, it sort of helps me in that sense. So, I think in the early days, when I wanted to figure out, you know, how does the universe actually start? We really want to know. Now…

Steven Strogatz

It's interesting to me, the analogy between the perspective you've described with holding different possibilities in mind at the same time and being comfortable, I want to say, sort of as a superposition, that you seem to resist collapse in your own thinking.

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