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Maarten Grootendorst

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“It's a little bit of a hot take, but I really do think that an agent is an LLM in a for loop with some tools, some memory, and perhaps some guardrails.” — Maarten Grootendorst, The Data Exchange with Ben Lorica

Ben Lorica had asked the definitional question the field keeps stepping around: what actually makes a system an agent? Grootendorst answers by deflating it, noting first that the thing changes every two months. Lorica's immediate reply is that he has just described what people now call the harness.

The Data Exchange with Ben Lorica · 2026-08-20 Context → Listen →

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