“Probably a lot of the software can be written. But any large organization is a group of people, and actually rewriting the software may not be the hardest part. This is the thing most of us learn over and over again: it turns out the people are the hard part.”

…know all that and so I don't know I don't know we would open invitation to this person come on the show open invitation though come on the show tell us what you're doing and maybe correct me tell me how you are interacting with the other groups or if you're not because maybe they are doing that

…without any accountability, and everybody else has to work on this stuff that makes money and has deadlines and stuff, Mr. Patel, you have friction with people and personalities. I wish all these folks the best of luck. Well, I like it. And I think it's fun to watch history repeat itself. I

The beauty of this is if you were, let's say you were a smaller company. Let's say you were a reasonably good sized company, but you still had a lot of market to expand into, right? Let's say you were VMware when VMware hadn't gotten networking and storage and all the other things. It was just a…

First question is when they come on the show, it would be like, okay, so you're doing this. Like, what do you do every day? What's the one-on-one like? Are you presenting? Because this is what I bet happens. I bet you like, are there red, green, yellow PowerPoint slides that have to be presented on…

I'm going to try not to remember it. I do, I guarantee there is a slide somewhere that Mr. Patel put in front of a bunch of people because we had to go to somebody in finance or accounting and said, hey, go in the blank check checkbook, get one of those out, send it over to our friend here. And…