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JK Jonas Kruckenberg On Rustacean Station

“With AI accelerating both finding bugs and exploiting bugs as well, right? I think there's never been a better time to get into Rust. And we're also seeing that, right? So we get a lot of asks and a lot of clients coming through our door being like, hey, can you help us make our code more memory safe? … There's never been a better time to get into Rust and fix all the safety vulnerabilities in the world than right now, which is very exciting.”

Rustacean Station · Hands-On Engineering Podcasts · October 2026

“With AI accelerating both finding bugs and exploiting bugs as well, right? I think there's never been a better time to get into Rust. And we're also seeing that, right? So we get a lot of asks and a lot of clients coming through our door being like, hey, can you help us make our code more memory safe? … There's never been a better time to get into Rust and fix all the safety vulnerabilities in the world than right now, which is very exciting.” — Jonas Kruckenberg, Rustacean Station

Context

This is Kruckenberg's closing message at the end of the episode, after the host asked for call-outs. He runs a consultancy that helps clients migrate code to Rust, and he ties the demand he sees from clients to AI making vulnerabilities easier to find and exploit.

Transcript

Rustacean Station Around 24:03 into the episode
Jonas Kruckenberg

…of you have to build all the assurance and insurance, God, that's a difficult word. Assurances and static knowledge. You kind of have to build that yourself, right? So you're kind of master of your own success in that way. And just being very paranoid is kind of the name of the game, effectively.

Allen Wyma

…want to kind of leave this last note. Maybe we should probably end with, you know, like a couple of call outs, right? You know, like how to get in touch with you, how to actually find this book, because I think it's a free resource that's online. Anything else that you want to give a shout out to?

Jonas Kruckenberg

…and all the things happening right now. And with kind of AI accelerating both finding bugs and exploiting bugs as well, right? I think there's never been a better time to get into Rust. And we're also seeing that, right? So we get a lot of asks and a lot of clients coming through our door being like, hey, can you help us make our code more memory safe? And so I would just leave you with that. There's never been a better time to get into Rust and fix all the safety vulnerabilities in the world than right now, which is very exciting. Much work ahead for us for stations.

Allen Wyma

All right. And with that, thank you for coming on. I apologize about starting late, but I think we got to the core of the core of what the main topic was. So again, thanks for coming on. And maybe we'll have you back on again in the future.

Jonas Kruckenberg

Yeah. Hell yeah. Thank you.

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