“It's not a happy path, it's a happy traveler that you care about.”

…bootstrapper wants, the lifestyle business that just keeps going and keeps going better. And then you have this equity conversion thing where there's a shift where it turns more into a VC paradigm. So what's your ideal, what's the happy path for the Calm Fund in a relationship with the business?

…know, between options that an entrepreneur might want to take and us, basically. So we don't have a preferred path, really, like genuinely. I mean, I think like we want to get a good return on our investment, but how that comes back to us, we actually are like trying to be quite flexible about it.

Yeah, totally. And I will say this is like probably the area of the entire new version of the document that I have the most flexibility and am excited to like discuss and flex and tweak and maybe edit on a case-by-case basis because it is a tricky thing. So just to say what we're talking about…

I just wanted to really hear where this came from. The moment you mentioned these, it's almost what is it called, like a non-compete situation, right? That you used to, as an employee, first of all, you have the non-compete that you can never ever work for or talk about your work after you quit or…

I think it's perfectly fair.