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“…what AI can't do is grow up in a terrible home. AI can't have a broken heart.”

TBPN · Startups & Venture · September 2026

“…what AI can't do is grow up in a terrible home. AI can't have a broken heart.” — Jimmy Iovine, TBPN

Iovine had been conceding a lot of ground — that AI will make songs easier to produce, that influencers will make records, that there was always going to be crap either way. His limit is biographical rather than technical: the thing a model cannot acquire is a life. Two turns later he put it more bluntly, saying AI is not going to be Dolly Parton.

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TBPN Around 27:44 into the episode
Jimmy Iovine

That's right. The prompts the prompts should get paid.

John Coogan

Yes.

Jimmy Iovine

…great artists, you know, Kendrick Lamar, Alicia Olivia Dean, you know, some great people that are CMAT, some of these young artists that are just you know, Saint Harrison, Some of these great, great could sing Harrison. There ain't no AI that can sing like that kid. Yeah. You know? So something like that, you know, is, you know, not not gonna they're they're gonna be there. Because see, yeah, what AI can't do is grow up in a terrible home. AI can't have a broken heart.

John Coogan

Yeah.

Jimmy Iovine

You know? So, you know, AI is not gonna be Dolly Parton.

John Coogan

Art has always been about stories. You look at the modern art museum and there's the cost to refrain. My kid could have drawn that, but you didn't and there's not providence and there's not a journey and a story

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