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JN Jonathan Neman On The Best One Yet

“The things that drive consumers broadly, maybe not in kind of niche segments, it's cravability, convenience, price. Health is like in the top five or six. The holy grail for us is you can't win on health alone. … We have to be healthy and good for you, but you have to be delicious.”

The Best One Yet · October 2026

“The things that drive consumers broadly, maybe not in kind of niche segments, it's cravability, convenience, price. Health is like in the top five or six. The holy grail for us is you can't win on health alone. … We have to be healthy and good for you, but you have to be delicious.” — Jonathan Neman, The Best One Yet

The hosts asked the Sweetgreen co-founder why he hadn't mentioned sustainability as a selling point, noting that Allbirds had to back away from its own sustainability pitch. Neman says consumers choose on craving, convenience and price, so health has to come with taste.

Transcript

The Best One Yet Around 23:09 into the episode
Jonathan Neman

…of tell all those stories and really understand how do we create desire for this kind of food. And so much of that is about, you know, the taste and the flavor, bold flavors. But it's also about the stories we tell around the food. And how do we just create excitement and desire for this food? But

Nick Martell

…them that sustainability was their lead selling point, and then they had to backtrack from it because it didn't sell. So, it's just interesting to hear from these brands, like, what actually works in the markets, what actually resonates with people versus what you want to resonate with people.

Jonathan Neman

Yeah, you know, when you think you look at the industry, the things that drive consumers broadly, maybe not in like kind of niche segments, it's cravability, convenience, price. Health is like in the top five or six. The holy grail for us is you can't win on health alone. Like, I've talked a lot about this idea of these four stages of food. How do you feel before you eat it while eating? It right after and 20 years later. You've had food, you have food companies that are really good at either the first two or the second two, right? They're really good at like making you crave it and tasting good, and then you feel terrible and you're probably not really healthy 20 years later, or the flip side where it doesn't look good, it doesn't taste good, but you feel great and you're really healthy. We cannot just win on health. We have to be healthy and good for you, but you have to be delicious. And so for us, it's really bringing those two together. It's like we always talk about it, it has to meet both taste and feel good together. I'm

Nick Martell

still feeling Jack's home run Grand Slam Olive Garden order from college, I believe.

Jack Crivici-Kramer

Nicholas, question for you. You know, Molly Baz, pickles are on the menu right now. Can you talk about limited time only offerings and how important that is, given you can't just have the same menu forever?

Nick Martell

Yeah, and like that's a drop you do essentially, but it also is something other industries could do.

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