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WP Wes Payne Wes Payne Co-host of LINUX Unplugged, the Jupiter Broadcasting show on Linux, open source, self-hosting and home lab tooling, with topics ranging from NixOS and Home Assi...

“There's the factor of how soon does it get into Nix packages, and then there's how soon is it actually on your machine. Nix is often one of the fastest to actually get it patched in the code. But because of the way Nix works, it can sometimes be one of the slower ones to actually get it on your machine… You can think of Nix packages as a giant tree that all depends on each other. If you're just doing a leaf of that tree, it's not a big deal. But if you're doing something that's really at the root of that tree, you have to rebuild everything under it.”

LINUX Unplugged · Hands-On Engineering Podcasts · November 2026

“There's the factor of how soon does it get into Nix packages, and then there's how soon is it actually on your machine. Nix is often one of the fastest to actually get it patched in the code. But because of the way Nix works, it can sometimes be one of the slower ones to actually get it on your machine… You can think of Nix packages as a giant tree that all depends on each other. If you're just doing a leaf of that tree, it's not a big deal. But if you're doing something that's really at the root of that tree, you have to rebuild everything under it.” — Wes Payne, LINUX Unplugged

Context

A listener asked how to pull in CVE fixes on NixOS as fast as possible. After checking how Nix handled several recent vulnerabilities, Wes explains that patch speed in the source tree and patch speed on your own machine are two different things.

Transcript

LINUX Unplugged Around 59:33 into the episode
Wes Payne

So they often are some of the fastest to actually. So you have to separate things when analyzing this. Lay it

Chris Fisher

down for me, Western. There's

Wes Payne

the factor of how soon does it get into Nix packages? And then there's how soon is it actually on your machine? And this is where it sort of bifurcates because Nix is often one of the fastest to actually get it patched in the code. But because of the way Nix works, it can sometimes be one of the slower ones to actually get it on your machine because that whole reproducibility and like you can think of it, Nix packages as a giant tree that all depends on each other. And so if you're just doing a leaf of that tree, it's not a big deal, right? It's just one. You know, a package, maybe a couple of libraries related to it that you have to rebuild. But if you're doing something that's really at the root of that tree, you have to rebuild everything under it.

Chris Fisher

Yeah. And you could do that on your own machine.

Wes Payne

But it's going to take time and power and build. Which is what

Chris Fisher

Gene's doing.

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