“Vogtle was way over budget, way over schedule. But at a time of historically low interest rates, 20% of Vogtle's cost overruns were interest payment overruns. So you realize that the overnight cost of a plant, when it takes 10 years to build, doesn't matter as much as interest rates and how long you are actually taking to build these things. … I think the way we bring the costs down dramatically is just build them quicker and build more of them.”

It will get solved. And then the way it gets solved depends on what you think the cause of the cost issues in nuclear being. So this is one of those overdetermined problems of like, why haven't we scaled nuclear? I think most people just say safety. You know, they look back to the 70s and they say there was a movie, The China Syndrome, you had Three Mile Island, you had Chernobyl. And so clearly nuclear was going to stop and we wouldn't scale it. And I do think the scaling piece is actually one of the proximate causes. Like we never hit economies of scale. We weren't doing it quickly enough. We never built out the supply chains. The workforces would shift around from project to project. Vogel was way over budget, way over schedule. But at a time of historically low interest rates, 20% of Vogel's cost overruns were interest rate overruns, interest payment overruns. And so you realize that the overnight costs of a plant, when they take 10 years to build, actually doesn't matter as much as interest rates and how long are you actually taking to build these things. And so if you think about the big reactors, I think the way that we bring the costs down dramatically is just build them quicker and build more of them. I think that goes…