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TK Tyler King Co-founder and CEO of Less Annoying CRM, a bootstrapped CRM for small businesses he started with his brother Bracken in 2009.

“I do think stability maybe matters more than like shipping velocity, arguably. Stability of the code base. And these companies that are like vibing real hard, they are putting out a lot of shit. And if what you want is the max features, like I want to be on the cutting edge. I just want all the functionality and I can handle some rough edges, then that's fine. But I don't think that's the business we're in at Less Annoying CRM.”

Startup to Last · Bootstrapped & Indie SaaS · October 2026

“I do think stability maybe matters more than like shipping velocity, arguably. Stability of the code base. And these companies that are like vibing real hard, they are putting out a lot of shit. And if what you want is the max features, like I want to be on the cutting edge. I just want all the functionality and I can handle some rough edges, then that's fine. But I don't think that's the business we're in at Less Annoying CRM.” — Tyler King, Startup to Last

Context

Asked whether his new AI bug-fix workflow could eventually run without a human developer, Tyler explains why his company keeps a human reviewing the code. A CRM people rely on every day, he argues, needs stability more than speed.

Transcript

Startup to Last Around 13:34 into the episode
Tyler King

…solution is approved by the CRM coach, all the dev has to do is just glance at the code and be like, this is a good thing. Sometimes it's like, this is 5,000 lines of code. That's wrong. Sometimes it's like, this is 10 lines. Nothing looks horrible. Ship it. Like, I don't even need to do anymore.

Rick Lindquist

And could that be done by an agent at some

Tyler King

point? Yeah, I think probably. If I'm being honest, I think the biggest hurdle to that is cultural, not technical. But at the same time, I'm there's for a business like Lesson Wing CRM. I do think stability maybe matters more than like shipping velocity, arguably. This is another theme kind of connected to something else. Stability of the code base. Yeah. And these companies that are like vibing real hard, they are putting out a lot of shit. And if what you want is the max features, like I want to be on the cutting edge. I just want all the functionality and I can handle some rough edges, then that's fine. But I don't think that's the business we're in at Lesson Wing CRM. But yes, I think that I don't think the full thing can fully get replaced. Sorry. If the CRM tests a fix and we could probably have an LLM that's like, here's how you decide if it needs a human review or not. And it's like, if it's a simple front end change or whatever, like we could probably codify, here are the things that could be done automatically. But it's already like, I don't think it's like a huge game changer because the reality is before the dev was just telling their agent to do it. It's not like the dev was doing it by hand. It's…

Rick Lindquist

No, I get it. It's great.

Tyler King

It is the first time I've ever built, like you've talked a lot about agents on this podcast. I've talked a lot about like, well, coding. I've talked about coding agents, cloud code, et cetera. You've talked a lot about like, I built an agent in Slack to do whatever.

Rick Lindquist

Yep.

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