“If someone came to you and said, I want to pitch you my company, are you ready for my pitch? We use electricity. You would think I was nuts. … That's an implementation detail. What are you doing? I feel the same way about AI. I actually try to say AI as little as possible.”

Dave, you were going to say.

I'd like to take your exact quote and say, look, you know, if you, hey, dirty little secret, everybody, doing a moonshot is really, really easy. You take fanatically focused people who care about a mission, who are really, really smart, and you pour money on them. Great. No CEO Will be a world where you swap out the people and you swap in AGIs, and you take out the money and you pour compute on them. That world isn't here yet. There's got to be some transition world we're in right now where there are three AIs and three people, and I poured compute and money on them. And then there's another ratio. Have you started down that journey yet?

Me too.

On the one hand, like what you just described, every one of our moonshots, that's it. It's a bunch of agents and a bunch of people working together to try to solve a problem. That's an implementation detail. What we're obsessed with is the problem. Whether it's clean water or it's a way to make grid-scale energy storage or it's education, whether it's how to fix the electric grid, how to make our world sort of actually circular so we're not sending trillions of dollars a year to landfill. Like those are the things that we're obsessed about. And then in the background, yeah, it's humans and agents like making it happen. But most of our obsession is the problem and how to couple that into a business so that it gets bigger over time so it doesn't cost too much.

Let me translate that into a budget question. So if you said, here, clean water is a great one, great moonshot. I need, what was it, like a penny a liter?