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ST Stu Turley CEO and President of Sandstone Group, Host of the Energy News Beat energy markets podcast.

“I think you're going to see greenwashing for natural gas coming into a real thing. Take a look at Bloom Energy. … They are funneling natural gas over fuel cells so that they can say that it is a fuel cell. … Now, here's the difference. They could probably build your data center faster. … You can get a Bloom Energy fuel cell power plant before you could get a GE Vernova turbine, which has got a five-year wait now.”

Energy News Beat · Climate & Energy · November 2026

“I think you're going to see greenwashing for natural gas coming into a real thing. Take a look at Bloom Energy. … They are funneling natural gas over fuel cells so that they can say that it is a fuel cell. … Now, here's the difference. They could probably build your data center faster. … You can get a Bloom Energy fuel cell power plant before you could get a GE Vernova turbine, which has got a five-year wait now.” — Stu Turley, Energy News Beat

Context

The hosts were on renewables marketing. Turley says fuel cells running on natural gas are sold as green but can power data centers faster than gas turbines, which have long waits; the wait time is his figure.

Transcript

Energy News Beat
Stu Turley

Yeah, I got my MBA and I actually worked for mine a long time ago. And yeah, Dr. Nemuth fell out of her chair for our podcast listeners. And she goes, you got an MBA? Yeah, I can barely spell. I had to cover up my Oklahoma State degree with a different diploma.

David Blackmon

…are other corporations doing, right? If you believe you can have a power grid run on wind and solar and batteries as baseload, you are living in a fantasy world that does not exist. And, you know, and we saw so many of these other companies go down that same path to pretty much disastrous results.

Stu Turley

I think you're going to see greenwashing for natural gas coming into a real thing. Take a look at Bloom Energy. Bloom Energy is a fuel cell energy company with one big client. They've got a database where they actually make fuel cells. Well, those fuel cells are not a, they're burning natural gas. And on their website, they have natural gas, nat gas in about a one font go rolling by at warp speed. I think Spock was going more power to the shields, Captain, as that nat gas rolls by. I had to dig through…

David Blackmon

makes sense. Well,

Tammy Nemeth

to be fair, in the EU, under their green taxonomy, natural gas is considered a transition fuel and therefore permissible for investment. So they've already been. But

Stu Turley

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