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RM Ros Morgan On James Reed: all about business

“Business rates… was nationalized in 1990, right? So we're talking 35 odd years ago. And we're still stuck with that same principle of taxing businesses on property. So pre-internet… This is how I describe it. It was during the time of Ask Jeeves… So about a fifth of sales are done online. And that's not reflected in the business rates.”

James Reed: all about business · October 2026

“Business rates… was nationalized in 1990, right? So we're talking 35 odd years ago. And we're still stuck with that same principle of taxing businesses on property. So pre-internet… This is how I describe it. It was during the time of Ask Jeeves… So about a fifth of sales are done online. And that's not reflected in the business rates.” — Ros Morgan, James Reed: all about business

She is making the case for reforming the UK's business rates, a tax on commercial property. Because the system predates online shopping, she argues, the Treasury keeps asking more of businesses with physical premises such as shops.

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Ros Morgan

And so it's UK-wide, it's sector-wide, industry-wide. You know, we've got to. So what are you

James Reed

trying to do? So what we're trying

Ros Morgan

to do is simplify business rates. So business rates was established long before the 1990s, but it was nationalized in 1990, right? So we're talking 35 odd years ago. And we're still stuck with that same principle of taxing businesses on property. So pre-internet. Pre-Hotmeal. This is how I describe it. It was during the time of Ask Jeeves. Remember Ask Jeeves? Yeah. So early internet, demon internet. Yeah. And you were, you thought you were great if you had Hotmail accounts. Pre-Google. I've still got the same Hotmeal account I set up then. I was so proud of it. And pre-Google, pre-all of that. And so over 35 years, the economy's changed completely. The economy's changed. So about a fifth of sales are done online. And that's not reflected in the business rates. So what's happening instead? Treasury under more and more pressure to find more and more money. And so they're asking for more from business rates. That affects property businesses primarily.

James Reed

And which are shops, shops, libraries,

Ros Morgan

cinemas, nurseries, any business you can think of on a day-to-day basis. They're all paying business rates. There are some exemptions, but the majority are paying business rates. And there is no recognition, there has been no recognition so far that the economy has changed. And so we've heard…

James Reed

And then these high streets are being hollowed out.

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