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“…I feel like there's been a lot of like, hey, look what I've done type of conversations happening within teams, not a lot of look what we did.”

Maintainable · Hands-On Engineering Podcasts · September 2026

“…I feel like there's been a lot of like, hey, look what I've done type of conversations happening within teams, not a lot of look what we did.” — robby russell, Maintainable

Russell is thinking aloud about what AI tooling has done to team dynamics, after his guest described a widening comprehension gap on engineering teams. He goes on to say his own team's Slack help channels have gotten noticeably quieter, and wonders what that does to the maintainability of the software. His worry is that a team sport is quietly becoming a solo one.

Transcript

Maintainable Around 33:10 into the episode
robby russell

don't know, I'm not sure.

kristin isaac

…was in C, because it's the context burden of all the thousands of libraries and microservices and AI generated code and everything layered on top of one another. And you could say it maybe is a maintainability crisis ready to happen. I don't know. What do you think? This is your area of expertise.

robby russell

…in a certain way, or maybe, but also, yeah, I think the comprehension or feeling like you can jump in and out of a code base is more interesting and that you can do that quicker. But then I'm like, how much do you need to retain anymore? And then that part I'm trying to wrap my head around. I also think it's been an interesting thing where something I've talked about a lot with AI tooling is I feel like there's been a lot of like, hey, look what I've done type of conversations happening within teams, not a lot of look what we did. And I think more about the team dynamics shifting. And I don't know how that, like the things we used to collaborate with each other on, like, hey, can you help me with this? Or can I help you with that type of problem? We're siloing ourselves in a way. And I'm like, how does that then impact the broader maintainability of the software and our career progressions maybe in parallel and our…

kristin isaac

Where's the team? Yeah, the challenge is real. I actually heard a university professor speaking about AI tools the other day and he was sharing a similar pattern in the classroom that's happening at universities where university classrooms, of course, used to have lots of questions and the…

robby russell

know, I think speaking back to the engineering team dynamic and wondering, you know, just as something, and if anyone listening out there can share this, like I feel like I've noticed that my own engineering team's Slack channels where they would usually ask each other for help has gotten a lot…

kristin isaac

do you feel like, do you feel like it's impacting sort of younger engineers more, sort of fresh, fresh grads and more junior folks?

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