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DB David Byrne On Food with Mark Bittman

“I'd be reading an article about an exhibition of, let's say, paintings by Botticelli or something like that. And then there would be just like a mention in the review that said, and Botticelli went out of favor and was basically forgotten for 200 years. And then they'd go on and talk about paintings. I'd go, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's where the story is. You buried it right there.”

Food with Mark Bittman · Food & Beverage · October 2026

“I'd be reading an article about an exhibition of, let's say, paintings by Botticelli or something like that. And then there would be just like a mention in the review that said, and Botticelli went out of favor and was basically forgotten for 200 years. And then they'd go on and talk about paintings. I'd go, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's where the story is. You buried it right there.” — David Byrne, Food with Mark Bittman

Byrne was explaining how he started collecting "sleeping beauties" for his new book: ideas, papers and artists that were forgotten and then rediscovered years or decades later. He got the term from a science paper and realized he knew the pattern from music and the arts.

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Food with Mark Bittman Around 46:31 into the episode
David Byrne

…goes, that is exactly what we've been looking for. Or it's the same thing we're doing now, but this person already did it. And then I realized, no, I know this from music. I know it from the arts and literature and all sorts of things. So I thought, oh, I'll start collecting examples of these.

Mark Bittman

That's fascinating. That's fascinating. And it

David Byrne

was. So it takes a while. I'd be reading an article about an exhibition of, let's say, paintings by Botticelli or something like that. And then there would be just like a mention in the review that said, and Botticelli went out of favor and was basically forgotten for 200 years. And then they'd go on and talk about paintings. I'd go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's where the story is. You buried it right there.

Mark Bittman

Well, the rediscovery is the story. The rediscovery

David Byrne

is the story. And they don't mention that. So I thought, okay, now I have to do some research and find out why did he go out of favor? And how did he get rediscovered? That kind of thing. Were there predecessors, is that the right word? Or foreshadowings of Impressionism 200

Mark Bittman

years before there was Impressionism or of rock and roll 200 years before there was rock and roll? And that's what you're talking about.

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