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Start free trial →Volts · Climate & Energy · October 2026
In his intro, Roberts says some listeners found his earlier guests too sympathetic to data centers, and cites public opposition numbers to justify hearing the case against them. The figures are his own; the episode doesn't name sources.
…year or two, I've had several people on Volts to talk about data centers, directly or indirectly. Most of them have made some version of the case that data centers can be good for the grid and for the climate if they're done right. Some of you have interpreted this choice of guests as an unduly sympathetic attitude toward data centers and written with varying degrees of politeness to tell me so. Certainly, the U.S. public has no such sympathy. Three in four Americans now say they would oppose a data center near them. Something like $260 billion worth of projects have been canceled this year alone, mainly in the face of local backlash. So, in the name of this podcast's populist credibility, it's time to hear the case against data centers. As it happens, I know a guy. Ketan Joshi spent years in the Australian wind industry fending off bogus health scares about turbines. These days, he's a freelance writer and analyst producing the most thorough critiques I've seen of big tech's climate claims, taking aim at everything from…
Hey, mate. Thank you for having me on. Very happy to be here.
There is much to discuss today. As you well know, this has been your life for the last few years. So, I'm going to start with a two-parter, just quickly. One is tell us briefly how you ended up here. How did you become the guy doing this? Why aren't there more of you? And then, secondly, you know…
Yeah, absolutely. As you mentioned in your intro, I used to work in the renewable energy industry, and that was like eight years of just pure advocacy, right? Wind turbines are the best, right? Like, I was just out there, and I was brutal, you know, like I was at war with the anti-wind groups, and…