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Start free trial →On with Kara Swisher · Tech Strategy & Big Tech · November 2026
Kara was explaining why the Nvidia CEO spy scandal worries her beyond the scandal itself. Her point is that the AI companies are so tied together by cross-investments that trouble at Nvidia could spread to all of them.
…squeeze us. So I thought it was interesting in general. But later, he has not talked to me since this thing has taken off because I suspect I'd be a little tougher on him. He's in charge of this company in a way that I thought was very dangerous in terms of the board being incredibly weak. So even
before the spy scandal. Yes,
…better himself. So I was always worried about his, not that tech people shouldn't have an influence, but the amount of influence Jensen especially had on Trump was problematic when he didn't have any guardrails at his own company, right? That was very clear. But I found it really troubling that there was no strictures on his power, either from a shareholder point of view, and that there's this, I worry about the Jenga of it all. Like if something happens to NVIDIA, the rest of them go down, right? Because of the cross-investments. And the last thing is, obviously, Chinese intelligence is going to be all over Silicon Valley. And the sloppiness here is, again, as you said, get away from the moral things, the sloppiness here. And I bet people knew this woman was doing this. I suspect it was not unknown. I wonder what kind of reaction the other tech CEOs will have because they're so dependent on Jensen Wong. I worry about the…
Well, the thing that really struck me is, and you and I were texting about this. There are photographs of them going back at least to 2024.
Well, earlier, 2024. Even earlier. Yeah. So
there were a lot of people who were around them. She posted a lot of these photos. On WeChat. Yeah. And that raises some really interesting questions. I'm also curious about what Trump said in, was it the 60-minute interview or one of his many press encounters over the last week where he said, we…