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KT Kavi Thakrar On The Go To Food Podcast

“I think matcha just generally as an ingredient is on too many menus. And the other thing that I'm seeing is caviar bumps. Like caviar on everything is an upsell. Like, here's a chicken nugget, let me put caviar on it.”

The Go To Food Podcast · Food & Beverage · October 2026

“I think matcha just generally as an ingredient is on too many menus. And the other thing that I'm seeing is caviar bumps. Like caviar on everything is an upsell. Like, here's a chicken nugget, let me put caviar on it.” — Kavi Thakrar, The Go To Food Podcast

Context

Thakrar's answer to a quickfire question on what's on too many menus right now. He calls caviar bumps a trick to push up average spend, and a moment later adds: "Here's a chicken nugget for three quid. Here's 30 quid of caviar."

Transcript

The Go To Food Podcast Around 58:36 into the episode
Kavi Thakrar

…and foremost, right? If people don't feel comfortable or happy here, you've got to go. It's just not acceptable. What's on too many menus? Too many menus today. I've got two answers to that. That's two answers. So I think matcha as an ingredient is just, I don't need a matcha croissant. No, no,

Ben Benton

no. I don't. But you'll get one. Yeah,

Kavi Thakrar

exactly. So I think matcha just generally is an ingredient is on too many menus. And the other thing that I'm seeing is, I don't know what you caviar bumps. Like caviar and everything is an upsell. Like, here's a chicken nugget, let me put caviar on it. Yeah, like behaviour. Okay, like, so those for me, and that's a trend that's becoming. I think it's a way to get a little bit more. You want to get your

Ben Benton

average spend up? Yeah,

Kavi Thakrar

but a couple of caviar bumps. Yeah, it's mental. Here's a chicken nugget for three quid. Here's 30 quid of caviar.

Ben Benton

It's lazy.

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