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SG Steve Gibson Steve Gibson Software developer and security researcher who founded Gibson Research Corporation, maker of the SpinRite disk maintenance and recovery utility and the ShieldsU...

“I don't think I'm becoming AI-pilled, but I am increasingly becoming AI-stunned and AI-awed. … The more I push the limits of what Claude can do, the fuzzier the presence of any limit feels. I haven't found a limit yet. I'm just astonished.”

Security Now · Software Engineering & Infra · November 2026

“I don't think I'm becoming AI-pilled, but I am increasingly becoming AI-stunned and AI-awed. … The more I push the limits of what Claude can do, the fuzzier the presence of any limit feels. I haven't found a limit yet. I'm just astonished.” — Steve Gibson, Security Now

Context

Steve Gibson had just explained that 'AI-pilled' is a derogatory term for someone who believes AI is about to become sentient. After days of building with Claude, he denies being AI-pilled but is clearly impressed; Leo Laporte answered that he is AI-pilled for sure.

Transcript

Security Now Around 57:26 into the episode
Steve Gibson

So it's a good question.

Leo Laporte

Maybe you better talk, start with talking about what that is.

Steve Gibson

…reports that in-house AI researchers are always experimenting with something next, sometimes way next. You know, they have significantly more advanced models than have yet been widely released for public use. So, my point here is that the more I push the limits of what Cloud 5.5 can do, the fuzzier the presence of any limit feels. I don't, I haven't found a limit yet. I'm just astonished. So, I don't think I'm becoming AI-pilled, but I am increasingly becoming AI-stunned and AI-awed. And I'm certain that anyone who has used the latest AI extensively, and I know you have, Leo, like more than extensively, you'll understand what I'm saying. I mean, it is astonishing what we have. You know, and when I, you know, the industry is getting a little wobbly at the moment. You know, we have all this Jensen nonsense going on, but, you know, and a concern about profit, a concern about…

Leo Laporte

One of the things maybe it's Marcus Hutchins was saying this on X that most hackers are not sophisticated enough to really be able to use these AI tools in the way that we worry about. That this is still not script kitty material level. Right. Right.

Steve Gibson

Yeah.

Leo Laporte

Right. And I think that that's encouraging. And they're not, and we've seen that. The attacks, we've seen a lot of flaws that we found and fixed, but the attacks are not swamping us by any means yet.

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