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Pivot (Kara Swisher & Scott Galloway) · Tech Strategy & Big Tech · October 2026
Kara Swisher asks which is the bigger danger, Trump or social media combined with AI. He answers that it's the combination of the two.
…have a different type of president now. We're transitioning into authoritarianism. It doesn't mean that there aren't things that are worth uncovering. And I believe in this movie, it is shocking that people come out of it and they cannot believe the things that they see. People will do. People do.
…never forget this. You were one of the first people I interviewed who was sort of in the movie industry to talk. About this, you called it the greatest propaganda machine in history and AI, it's monstrous child. Who do you see as a bigger danger? Is it Donald Trump or the combination of the two? I
think it's the combination of the two. I don't think democracy is compatible with social media. And I actually, many years ago, I tried to speak to all the heads of the tech companies to warn them about that, thinking, oh, they would realize that and they would care. And then I realized actually they were completely disinterested in protecting democracy.
And then showed up at Donald Trump's table every week, essentially.
Yes. I mean, when the political system you're in changes, then it's
unsurprising that major corporations will behave like they would do in a different political system. But I think it's not just the thing about Donald Trump, it's a controversial comment. He is amusing. He is the, I mean, the economists use this term, the cometicians. There is a huge amount of…