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DS DJ Schleen On Cybersecurity Headlines

“We all got to take a deep breath and stop chasing things, especially when it comes to some of these frontier models. Let's not get involved in the browser wars again. … As security organizations, we've got to focus on the harness, because you can always change the underlying model. It's the harness that connects to the MCP servers and connects to the skills and exposes that model to a bunch of the world around it.”

Cybersecurity Headlines · October 2026

“We all got to take a deep breath and stop chasing things, especially when it comes to some of these frontier models. Let's not get involved in the browser wars again. … As security organizations, we've got to focus on the harness, because you can always change the underlying model. It's the harness that connects to the MCP servers and connects to the skills and exposes that model to a bunch of the world around it.” — DJ Schleen, Cybersecurity Headlines

Context

Asked whether a new model's gains on exploit benchmarks are reason enough to switch vendors, DJ argues security teams should focus on the integration layer around the model, which stays put while models change.

Transcript

Cybersecurity Headlines Around 10:27 into the episode
DJ Schleen

…be talking about in the show. But, you know, the third bug here, I think, after reading through it, is a bit of a nothing burger. Compared to what we've experienced with, you know, everything X to Shell in the past couple of weeks or the past week. I think the response is justified at this time.

Rich Stroffolino

…billion software vulnerabilities. Thank you, Mythos and Astra and every other model that's showing us how many vulnerabilities there are. But is this now what we should be chasing or is it still not at the level where we can like differentiate based on this with different model releases like this?

DJ Schleen

My personal opinion is we all got to take a deep breath and stop chasing things, especially when it comes to some of these frontier models. Let's not get involved in the browser wars again. Right. Because that's what we're seeing right now. It's the AI frontier model wars. I think as security organizations, we've got to focus on the harness because you can always change the underlying model. It's the harness that connects to the MCP servers and connects to the skills and exposes that model to a bunch of the world around it, I guess you could say, right? So the integrations become…

Rich Stroffolino

I like it. I like it. Jason, if you could fit another rhyme in there, you also,

Jason Elrod

I don't know. That was pro. DJ's not, he's mixing it good. Here, I agree with him, though, too, on this. I mean, it is more, it's scarier and airy. It's more weary of these type of things, right? Exploitability. Now that we're thinking, we're talking about it, I'm like, well, how did they prove it…

Rich Stroffolino

uh and ccl in our chat was uh slightly confused with carbon because uh they were asking while argon is not silly fully released to the public yeah we're on we're on rolling releases of things we're not allowed to touch um so uh yeah i love that one too

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