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BE Ben Edmunds Cofounder and brewmaster of Breakside Brewery in Portland, Oregon, trained at the Siebel Institute of Technology and the Doemens Academy; under his direction th...

“…dry, thin, bitter is a real problem in a lot of West Coast IPA.”

Craft Beer & Brewing Magazine Podcast · Food & Beverage · September 2026

“…dry, thin, bitter is a real problem in a lot of West Coast IPA.” — Ben Edmunds, Craft Beer & Brewing Magazine Podcast

Context

The Breakside brewer is answering a question about mash strategy on a panel of Pacific Northwest brewers, and names the flaw he thinks West Coast IPA keeps producing: very pale Pilsner malts leave a beer with nothing underneath the bitterness. He adds that the version without the bitterness, dry-thin-flabby, may be worse still. It is a criticism of the style he brews himself, made in front of other brewers.

Transcript

Craft Beer & Brewing Magazine Podcast Around 33:20 into the episode
Jamie Bogner

you doing that? What's it add?

Whitney Burnside

I think it adds really great, not only it's great for head retention, but body mouthfeel.

Ben Edmunds

Yeah, dry, thin, bitter is a real problem in a lot of West Coast IPA. It's definitely, and so is dry-thin flabby. So if you don't have the bitterness, that might be even worse, honestly. But it is tricky because as you use these very, very, very pale Pilsner malts, it's easy to end up with a beer that's too wispy and that doesn't have enough body. So going to things like flaked wheat or low-color malted wheat, which were in the recipe that we used yesterday, are…

Jamie Bogner

Are there any other mash strategies that you're using to also help build some of that body? Nobody's decocting or anything along that with their IPAs, are they? Not yet.

Ben Edmunds

Yeah, Amalgam does, yeah.

Jamie Bogner

Yeah, other than Phil. Anything else to the overall mash strategy? I

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