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The guest had just acknowledged that many people see Kubernetes as too complex. The host brushed that aside because he now hands operations to AI agents rather than typing commands himself, a candid sign of where he thinks infrastructure tooling is heading.
Not anymore.
No?
Yeah, so I just don't care anymore because, you know, like if I care about different topic now, how to have highly like 100% trustworthy agent for operations. This is what I care. I don't care about the complexity of kubectl commands and the memorizing stuff and so on because I don't do it anymore, right?
Yeah, you don't need to do it anymore. No, I mean, anyway, Kubernetes surface is very, very wide. So, I mean, if you want to learn the whole Kubernetes, it is complex. But also by learning a small subset of it, you can get comfortable with it and operate it. So you can pick which subset of it you…
shape. Interesting. So those people who got hosed when VMware got bought by Broadcom and saw the rates go up tenfold, had they been running more Kubernetes, this could have been pushed down to a new environment much faster.
Yep. So absolutely.