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NS Nikolay Samokhvalov Nikolay Samokhvalov Founder of Postgres.ai, working on tools for safe schema changes and query optimization in Postgres.

“I just don't care anymore, because the topic I care about now is how to have a highly, 100% trustworthy agent for operations. This is what I care about. I don't care about the complexity of kubectl commands and memorizing stuff and so on, because I don't do it anymore, right?”

Postgres FM · Hands-On Engineering Podcasts · November 2026

“I just don't care anymore, because the topic I care about now is how to have a highly, 100% trustworthy agent for operations. This is what I care about. I don't care about the complexity of kubectl commands and memorizing stuff and so on, because I don't do it anymore, right?” — Nikolay Samokhvalov, Postgres FM

Context

The guest had just acknowledged that many people see Kubernetes as too complex. The host brushed that aside because he now hands operations to AI agents rather than typing commands himself, a candid sign of where he thinks infrastructure tooling is heading.

Transcript

Postgres FM Around 12:14 into the episode
Nikolay Samokhvalov

Not anymore.

Álvaro Hernández Tortosa

No?

Nikolay Samokhvalov

Yeah, so I just don't care anymore because, you know, like if I care about different topic now, how to have highly like 100% trustworthy agent for operations. This is what I care. I don't care about the complexity of kubectl commands and the memorizing stuff and so on because I don't do it anymore, right?

Álvaro Hernández Tortosa

Yeah, you don't need to do it anymore. No, I mean, anyway, Kubernetes surface is very, very wide. So, I mean, if you want to learn the whole Kubernetes, it is complex. But also by learning a small subset of it, you can get comfortable with it and operate it. So you can pick which subset of it you…

Kirk Wolak

shape. Interesting. So those people who got hosed when VMware got bought by Broadcom and saw the rates go up tenfold, had they been running more Kubernetes, this could have been pushed down to a new environment much faster.

Álvaro Hernández Tortosa

Yep. So absolutely.

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