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SL Sam Liccardo On On with Kara Swisher

“Look, Lord knows data centers poll about as well as measles, mumps, and rubella. But the truth is we critically need all that money that hyperscalers can invest in the grid if we are going to transition from a fossil fuel economy. And if we do this right, we can leverage those resources and protect local communities. We just need federal rules in place that protect local communities, protect ratepayers, and elicit the investment we need from the hyperscalers into the grid.”

On with Kara Swisher · Tech Strategy & Big Tech · November 2026

“Look, Lord knows data centers poll about as well as measles, mumps, and rubella. But the truth is we critically need all that money that hyperscalers can invest in the grid if we are going to transition from a fossil fuel economy. And if we do this right, we can leverage those resources and protect local communities. We just need federal rules in place that protect local communities, protect ratepayers, and elicit the investment we need from the hyperscalers into the grid.” — Sam Liccardo, On with Kara Swisher

Context

Asked where lawmakers agree on AI, Rep. Sam Liccardo, whose district includes part of Silicon Valley, turned to data centers. He argues for federal rules rather than opposition to the buildout, a week after local data center backlash showed up on ballots.

Transcript

On with Kara Swisher Around 42:05 into the episode
Speaker 3

letter was left carelessly around. So I was sort of caught red-handed.

Kara Swisher

…our tord dates and get tickets at thisiscriminal.com slash live. Democrats will still face a lot of challenges to passing meaningful AI Regulation. And two of you, as I said, represent the divisions the Democratic caucus has how to best approach it. Where is the common ground in the caucus? Well,

Speaker 1

…have failed. I have some ideas about how we can do it much better. But this is a moment when we've got to enable millions of Americans to see a pathway, and it has to be a real pathway in an AI-enabled economy because we are not going to order back the sea of AI. No matter how much we may try, it is coming at us and we've got to be much more prepared. So I think in and around data centers, look, Lord knows data centers poll about as well as Measles, Mumps, and Rubella. But the truth is we critically need all that money that hyperscalers can invest in the grid if we are going to transition from a fossil fuel economy. And if we do this right, we can leverage those resources and protect local communities. We just need federal rules in place that protect local communities, protect ratepayers, and elicit the investment we need from the hyperscalers into the grid. And I think we can have the data centers we need for infrastructure. We've got to

Kara Swisher

battle a lot of voter discontent about this issue. It's really quite hot. Oh,

Speaker 1

absolutely. Because we haven't stepped up.

Kara Swisher

Yeah, I've just texting with Mark Cuban about this, and he's like, they've got to not be against data centers all the time. I said, it's the voters, Mark. It's not the politicians. It's the voters. And maybe you should convince them you're not all assholes, right? You know what I mean? Like maybe…

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