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JH Jordi Hays Jordi Hays Co-founder and host of TBPN, a daily technology talk show covering startup news, funding rounds and the businesses behind Silicon Valley.

“I don't think he can, at this point, advocate one way or another without looking bad. Because if he advocates for the status quo, which is like supporting, broadly supporting chip sales, advanced chip sales, all these things, he looks bad because it's like, wait, you've been having an affair with the spies. And if he now starts advocating the other way, it looks like he was compromised the whole time.”

TBPN · Startups & Venture · November 2026

“I don't think he can, at this point, advocate one way or another without looking bad. Because if he advocates for the status quo, which is like supporting, broadly supporting chip sales, advanced chip sales, all these things, he looks bad because it's like, wait, you've been having an affair with the spies. And if he now starts advocating the other way, it looks like he was compromised the whole time.” — Jordi Hays, TBPN

Context

Jordi Hays argues that the Nvidia CEO has lost his lobbying voice on chip export controls whichever stance he takes, now that he has admitted a relationship with an alleged Chinese spy.

Transcript

TBPN Around 13:03 into the episode
Jordi Hays

And that being said, the fact that she does exist, they had a relationship that he admits to. He's cheating on his wife. And then he's been doing all this other stuff. It's like it could not look

John Coogan

worse. It could not look worse

Jordi Hays

completely destroys all his credibility in Washington. I don't think he can, at this point, he can't advocate one way or another without looking bad. Totally. Because if he advocates for the status quo, which is like supporting, broadly, supporting chip sales, advanced chip sales, all these things, he looks bad because it's like, wait, you've been having an affair with the spies. And if he now starts advocating the other way, it looks like he was compromised the whole time. That's

John Coogan

true. So it's like

Jordi Hays

he's in such a bad spot. And this is somebody who he is on the road more than any other CEO on Earth. He's constantly, like, the whole NVIDIA game has been, Jensen's game has been show up once or twice a day through every conference, every newspaper, constant. And, you know, constantly be spreading…

John Coogan

Yeah.

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