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CK Cedric King On The Rich Roll Podcast

“I am the pencil. Without the pencil sharpener, this pencil, as good as it is, never truly achieves its purpose… It'll always be buried under the ego or the money or the fame or the fortune. But the moment you go into the sharpener, the best parts of you don't stay on the inside anymore. They come on the outside.”

The Rich Roll Podcast · Health & Longevity · November 2026

“I am the pencil. Without the pencil sharpener, this pencil, as good as it is, never truly achieves its purpose… It'll always be buried under the ego or the money or the fame or the fortune. But the moment you go into the sharpener, the best parts of you don't stay on the inside anymore. They come on the outside.” — Cedric King, The Rich Roll Podcast

Context

Cedric King, a soldier who lost both legs in a blast, recalls finding pencils but no sharpener in a care package during his hospital stay. He explains how that image turned him away from despair.

Transcript

The Rich Roll Podcast Around 46:05 into the episode
Cedric King

I said the same thing. I said, what is that? Bro, it's almost like we switched places. What does that mean? I'm the pencil. But this is what are you supposed to do with that? Let me tell you, man, those pencils.

Speaker 3

You got lead in your head.

Cedric King

I got lead in my head. That's exactly what I felt like. Is that what it means? No, man. Those pencils, it was like a pack of 10 of them. And because I didn't have the sharpener, I wish I looked on Doordash and Uber Eats all over Manhattan for somebody who would deliver me a pack of pencils for this interview, but it's supposed to be like this, I guess. But in this pack of pencils that was on this, in this care package, I said, man, I'm the pencil. But without the pencil sharpener, this pencil, as good as it is, it never truly achieves its purpose. Without the pencil sharpener? Yes, great. The pencil will always be a pencil. The pencil will always have meaning, but it will never achieve purpose unless it meets the sharpener. You, you, you would have never been the rich that you are today had you never gone through your sharpener experience. I am the same way. This was my sharpening experience. And for one slight moment, it took the pain away from what happened and it gave this pain purpose. Oh, wait a minute. You mean to tell me that just as that pencil needs that sharpener, I need the sharpening…

Speaker 3

This episode is brought to you by Rivian. When I got behind the wheel of the R2 with RJ, the founder, the thing that stuck with me wasn't the exterior. It was realizing that there was a place for everything. All the stuff that usually ends up loose on the floor of a car had a spot specifically…

Rich Roll

We talked about it a little bit out on the course, this thing that my wife always reminds me of, which is that everything that happens to us is neutral until you apply perspective. Meaning, things happen. We make mistakes, we succeed at things, we fall short, and then the world has its say. And…

Cedric King

That's right. Yesterday, before we started, or maybe in the first few miles, we got to Brooklyn and I was like, yo, I just want to be a billboard for what's possible in someone else's life. Like, I told you, God gave me a second chance, man. It ain't about me no more. And to your point, yes, it's…

Speaker names come from our own diarization. The position is estimated from where the line sits in the episode.

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