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Emil Kendziorra

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Emil Kendziorra has been a guest on Core Memory .

Recently: “He’s Here To End Death - EP 90 Dr. Emil Kendziorra” on Core Memory (September 2026).

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“If there is, in fact, a dystopian future, then I think the likelihood of waking up is negligible. Because dystopian futures don't care.” — Emil Kendziorra, Core Memory

Kendziorra runs a cryopreservation company and is answering the worry that you might be revived into a bad future. He expects a future society to care more about people from the past, not less, and argues that a society that didn't care wouldn't bother reviving anyone.

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Emil Kendziorra

So, so for me personally, right, so again, my choice is not do I want this or just want to do it where I'm continued to living, right? Even if I would fully think I'm living, I'm waking up 500 years from now, right? I would still say, listen, I'll figure it out. Like the idea of being dead forever and not seeing any of the amazing future, right? It's always worse for me.

Ashlee Vance

What if you wake up, everybody's already transhumanist, you're the dumbest, slowest? Fine by me.

Emil Kendziorra

Give me a beach somewhere. Listen, I'll live on the beach. I'll surf all day long. I'll figure out new kite surfing. I don't know. I'll figure it out. So I think there's a couple of futures that could happen. One could be as long as fundamental interactions of human life are still the same, right? Of course, not sitting in a studio like that, but if we have dinner together and we leave our phones in our pockets, then the interaction that we're having, even the topics, maybe not in Silicon Valley, but in the rest of the world, the topics are usually topics that you could have had 200 years ago. We eat with a fork and a knife and we have a glass and we have a plate and all of that stuff. The food is going to be exactly the same. So as long as these fundamental human interactions stay the same, I think you have a chance of being catching up. Now, there could be a world where everything is super advanced. Humans don't have the same form anymore, whatever. You can think of all these sci-fi things. I think in this case, I would assume, and I assume that's because history has gone like that, that future societies would assign moral value to us, right? Because we as society have over hundreds of years, we have assigned more and more and more moral value to other people. In the past, no one thought about our people in rural countries or in third world countries, can we help them somehow? This was not a thing in the 19th, 1600s at all. So it's just how can we conquer them? So I think that the trajectory is we assign more moral values to others. Hopefully, of course, the future is going to be post-scarcity. So I would assume that if it's in their power, they would say, well, these humans from the past might not be able to catch up to us, but let's give them Australia. And they can live there in their 21st century. And we slowly over years and decades catch them up. So I'm reasonably optimistic. And if this doesn't happen, if there is, in fact, a dystopian future, then I think the likelihood of waking up is negligible. Because dystopian futures don't care. The likelihood that there's this dystopian future that cares about bringing back people from the past, I don't see that as a high probability. You

Ashlee Vance

should wake up with like a cyanide pill necklace already in your... If it's like this Mad Max. You're like, all right, thanks. Thanks, but no thanks. Get a drink of water. It's like, yeah, yeah, thanks.

Emil Kendziorra

No, of course. And to be fair, most futures, even if it turns out that you really don't like it. Again, we've been saying Easton Asia and medical aid and dying has been more liberalized. And there are countries right now. I don't think any state in the US allows that, but there are countries in the world that allow medical aid in dying just because you say my quality of life is not how I want it. You don't need to have any disease or anything. It's rare, but I would assume a future society would allow that more and for better or for worse. So the likelihood that you somehow stuck in the future and you just hate it is, I think it's negligible. It's a risk I'm willing to take.

Ashlee Vance

And what would have to happen? So you've put in this cryoprotectant. So I guess you remove that, then you put blood back in, you begin a rewarming process. I mean, we'll move past the curing whatever killed you. Let's assume you've done that. Yeah, we'll figure

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