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EK Emil Kendziorra On Core Memory

“If there is, in fact, a dystopian future, then I think the likelihood of waking up is negligible. Because dystopian futures don't care.”

Core Memory · Startups & Venture · September 2026

“If there is, in fact, a dystopian future, then I think the likelihood of waking up is negligible. Because dystopian futures don't care.” — Emil Kendziorra, Core Memory

Kendziorra runs a cryopreservation company and is answering the worry that you might be revived into a bad future. He expects a future society to care more about people from the past, not less, and argues that a society that didn't care wouldn't bother reviving anyone.

Transcript

Core Memory
Emil Kendziorra

…or just want to do it where I'm continued to living, right? Even if I would fully think I'm living, I'm waking up 500 years from now, right? I would still say, listen, I'll figure it out. Like the idea of being dead forever and not seeing any of the amazing future, right? It's always worse for me.

Ashlee Vance

What if you wake up, everybody's already transhumanist, you're the dumbest, slowest? Fine by me.

Emil Kendziorra

…to others. Hopefully, of course, the future is going to be post-scarcity. So I would assume that if it's in their power, they would say, well, these humans from the past might not be able to catch up to us, but let's give them Australia. And they can live there in their 21st century. And we slowly over years and decades catch them up. So I'm reasonably optimistic. And if this doesn't happen, if there is, in fact, a dystopian future, then I think the likelihood of waking up is negligible. Because dystopian futures don't care. The likelihood that there's this dystopian future that cares about bringing back people from the past, I don't see that as a high probability. You

Ashlee Vance

should wake up with like a cyanide pill necklace already in your... If it's like this Mad Max. You're like, all right, thanks. Thanks, but no thanks. Get a drink of water. It's like, yeah, yeah, thanks.

Emil Kendziorra

No, of course. And to be fair, most futures, even if it turns out that you really don't like it. Again, we've been saying Easton Asia and medical aid and dying has been more liberalized. And there are countries right now. I don't think any state in the US allows that, but there are countries in the…

Ashlee Vance

And what would have to happen? So you've put in this cryoprotectant. So I guess you remove that, then you put blood back in, you begin a rewarming process. I mean, we'll move past the curing whatever killed you. Let's assume you've done that. Yeah, we'll figure

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