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Asa Fitch

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Asa Fitch has been a guest on WSJ Tech News Briefing , WSJ's Take On the Week , WSJ Your Money Briefing and What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future .

Recently: “Tech Stocks and AI Bonds Are Tumbling. Is the AI Trade in Trouble?” on WSJ's Take On the Week (November 2026); “Meta’s AI Spending Starts to Spook Investors” on WSJ Tech News Briefing (July 2026); “What’s News in Earnings: How Magnificent Can the Magnificent Seven Get?” on WSJ Your Money Briefing (August 2025); “The Secret Semiconductor War” on What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future (June 2024).

What They Said

“One thing that's kind of a question mark over all of this is this notion that NVIDIA wants to promote that the chips are commodities. Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA, has repeatedly talked about how these chips are quote-unquote fungible, almost as if they're a currency that you can just exchange from one thing to the next. That is to some degree true. … It's not always the case, though, because you have setups like Google's TPUs, for example.” — Asa Fitch, WSJ's Take On the Week

Telis argued that bondholders are protected because someone will always want the data centers and chips if an AI company fails. Asa agrees it's a reasonable bet but questions how freely the hardware can really move between owners.

WSJ's Take On the Week · 2026-11-01 Permalink → Listen →
WSJ's Take On the Week Around 22:09 into the episode
Miriam Gottfried

Yeah, you might as well clip this high coupon that you're getting paid from a junk bond like Core Weave's debt, right?

Telis Demos

Yeah. Maybe that's actually you're kind of taking advantage of an inefficiency there to some extent. Asa, does that sound crazy to

Asa Fitch

you? No, it doesn't sound crazy. I mean, it could be a good bet. You know, a lot of these companies were, you know, are doing pretty well in the end and will continue to have assets that have value. And even if those assets have to be sold off. Now, of course, one thing that's kind of a question mark over all of this is this notion that NVIDIA wants to promote that the GPUs, the chips are especially commodities. I mean, Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA, has like repeatedly talked about how these chips are quote-unquote fungible, you know, almost as if they're a currency that you can just exchange from one thing to the next. That is to some degree true. You know, especially if you're talking about just NVIDIA's chips moving from one place to another, one owner to another. It's not always the case, though, because you have setups like Google's TPUs, for example. Sorry, what's a TPU?

Miriam Gottfried

I'm like out of the way. Sorry, that's

Asa Fitch

an abbreviation for tensor processing unit, which it's basically just a special AI chip that Google has developed over the years. It was entirely different. And a TPU only comes

Miriam Gottfried

is only made by Google. Is that?

Speaker names come from our own diarization. The position is estimated from where the line sits in the episode.
“Capital is king. The capital window is wide open. People can raise money. Anthropic can, at least they hope. They're hoping to raise up to $100 billion in this IPO. So what matters now for these companies like CoreWeave, like Anthropic, like others, is capital.” — Asa Fitch, WSJ's Take On the Week

Telis had summed up that the recent AI sell-off was more about financing costs and interest rates than a turning point for AI itself. Asa's takeaway: who can raise money, and at what price, is now the key question.

WSJ's Take On the Week · 2026-11-01 Permalink → Listen →
WSJ's Take On the Week Around 28:42 into the episode
Telis Demos

…the longer-term bond market is telling you is like, okay, maybe actually the Fed doesn't have to do that much more tightening before we do see things start to slow down. And so we don't need to buy 10-year bonds at like these huge yields because the Fed's going to stop maybe at an earlier point.

Miriam Gottfried

I like that idea.

Asa Fitch

Well, I think that one of the takeaways here is that capital is king, right? I mean, the capital window is wide open. People can raise money. I mean, Anthropic can, at least, they hope. They're hoping to raise up to $100 billion in this IPO. So what matters now for these companies like Core Weeve, like Anthropic, like others, is capital. And if you look at other players like Meta platforms, wants to, you know, they're raising $35 billion in equity at the moment, and they plan to raise another $60 billion through at the market transactions, meaning basically they just issue stock at different times strategically. You know, this is a lot of money.

Speaker 4

It's a lot of

Asa Fitch

money to ask investors to give them, essentially, to pay for AI. So there's this wave of people begging for money, if you will, and investors, whether you're a credit investor or on the equity side, having to weigh whether to give them that money or name your price for giving you that money. So I…

Telis Demos

I would say if they can raise equity, like if Meta can really raise all that equity, if Anthropic can go public successfully, like if the equity markets are there for everyone, that's a pretty good sign for the bond market because that's just more cushion for bondholders who are in a capital stack…

Speaker names come from our own diarization. The position is estimated from where the line sits in the episode.
“NVIDIA has a gross margin of greater than 70%. If you're NVIDIA's customer and you're paying this huge margin and you're a huge tech company with a lot of resources, you would be insane not to try to develop your own chips and save some money. … So they need an outlet where they have companies to sell to that aren't trying to replace them. And CoreWeave for NVIDIA is really the primary outlet for exactly that.” — Asa Fitch, WSJ's Take On the Week

Miriam asked why NVIDIA wants CoreWeave, which rents out AI computing power, to succeed. Asa explains that NVIDIA's biggest customers are all building their own chips, so it needs large buyers that aren't trying to replace it.

WSJ's Take On the Week · 2026-11-01 Permalink → Listen →
WSJ's Take On the Week Around 13:32 into the episode
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Miriam Gottfried

Talk to us a little bit more about the relationship between NVIDIA and Core Weave, because I think that's actually a really important point. Why does NVIDIA want Core Weave to succeed?

Asa Fitch

I wrote a piece not too long ago saying essentially that NVIDIA needs Core Weave, and they do. I mean, NVIDIA is selling chips to a lot of customers that want to compete with it. You know, its main customers are Google, Microsoft, of course, Meta. But all of these companies have programs where they're making their own AI chips. You know, NVIDIA has a gross margin of greater than 70%. If you're NVIDIA's customer and you're paying this huge margin and you're a huge tech company with a lot of resources, you would be insane not to try to develop your own chips and save some money, especially when people are deploying AI Trade and inference at the scale they're doing it at. So NVIDIA kind of sees a future, I think, where it could be a little bit in trouble if everybody kind of does their own stuff. So they need an outlet where, you know, they have companies to sell to that aren't trying to replace them. And Core Weave for NVIDIA is really the primary outlet for exactly that.

Telis Demos

So it needs to see companies, it needs to see new entrants in the market for computing power in order to have healthy customers, right? It needs to need to see the success of these guys.

Asa Fitch

Oh, absolutely. And just think about it, even broader terms. It's a power thing, right? I mean, NVIDIA has enormous power over Core Weave. These big tech companies don't need NVIDIA quite as much. And NVIDIA can't really call the shots with these guys quite as much. So if you're in NVIDIA shoes, I…

Telis Demos

But this, see, this though gets me back to like, so what exactly is the market's concern here?

Speaker names come from our own diarization. The position is estimated from where the line sits in the episode.