Patrick Morgan

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Software designer exploring AI's creative frontier through weekly experiments and reflections.

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Patrick Morgan writes Unknown Arts . They have also been a guest on Dive Club 🤿 .

Recently: “I set out to write a guide. I built a tool instead.” on Unknown Arts (October 2026); “Build a Design OS” on Unknown Arts (August 2026); “Inside My AI Prototyping Environment” on Unknown Arts (August 2026); “Patrick Morgan - Building a custom prototyping playground” on Dive Club 🤿 (August 2026); “I'm Building Again” on Unknown Arts (August 2026); “AI Needs a Plan” on Unknown Arts (June 2026).

What They Said

“I think I'm just a designer, but my medium is code…” — Patrick Morgan, Dive Club 🤿

Talking about how he wants to describe himself after redesigning his personal site, Morgan resists the popular 'design engineer' label even though he now builds most of his prototypes directly in code with AI agents.

Dive Club 🤿 · 2026-08-18 Permalink → Listen →
Dive Club 🤿 Around 48:43 into the episode
Patrick Morgan

…like my team here at Sublime, but your team might look very different. And like your process, as you sort of discover your little tensions, you just work through them. It's a product design problem to solve, you know? So that's been great. I think that's probably how I'd go about it. Yeah,

Speaker 2

…how you want to position yourself in the years ahead, especially as somebody who you're doing this amazing thing that's creating so much value internally, but it doesn't show up in, you know, the sexy little portfolio or the neat templated case study that you'd expect of different types of work?

Patrick Morgan

…I've been designing for all these years, regardless of how I've been doing it, whether I'm the one writing the code or if I'm designing the mocks in Figma and then someone else is coding it, or if now I'm in some sort of messy middle where I'm just still using code as the medium more than ever. That's kind of how I'm trying to think about it in terms of like designer, engineer, design engineer. I think I'm just a designer, but my medium is code and I want to put it that way. And I just like to build.

Speaker 2

As evidenced by all your experiments and everything that I was, I was poking around. It's cool. You know, you have a nice balance between the exactly like this kind of stuff. It's like, that's a fun detail, you know, and it would have been something I'm sure you probably never would have taken the…

Patrick Morgan

I mostly used Claude code on the first iteration of this site. And then as I've continued to work on it, I've mostly been using codecs. But there are things that emerged as a result of this way of working that just would not have happened any other way. So for instance, I do a lot of writing, as…

Speaker 2

Yeah. And that being the knee-jerk reaction is becoming so important, right? It's like, I want to get to this end state. What tool? What tool can I build to just accelerate that process or get me further than I would have been able to do otherwise? Like that's kind of the TLDR of this entire…

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“So my rule is you can break your own stuff, but you can't break other people's stuff.” — Patrick Morgan, Dive Club 🤿

Morgan built an internal AI prototyping tool at Sublime Security where every designer gets their own sandboxed folder to work in with an agent. This is the governance line he uses to decide how much review an agent's changes need before they can touch shared code.

Dive Club 🤿 · 2026-08-18 Permalink → Listen →
Dive Club 🤿 Around 28:00 into the episode
Patrick Morgan

…platform architect, coming up with these objects, defining them, working with the agent to make sure it understands what it is and how to use it, and then making it as natural as possible for the human user to just ask for a canvas. And then the agent knows what that is and how to set it up. It's

Speaker 2

cool because it's kind of the ultimate exercise in systems thinking. Like there were many versions of this tool that you built that were very cumbersome and confusing for your team to use. The only way that you were going to get this adopted at a high level is if it was just stupid simple.

Patrick Morgan

…range. I've given you a lot of tools to like dial in certain types of work, but you can just design totally from scratch in a prototype as well. But if you are working on something that is going to impact other people's work, that requires a higher level of review and more of a typical kind of dev workflow where we want to make sure that what you push isn't going to break stuff for other people. So my rule is you can break your own stuff, but you can't break other people's stuff.

Speaker 2

There's one question that I can't stop asking myself. What if companies apply to talk to you rather than the other way around? And that question is the foundation for the all new Dive Talent Network. And it's working. Like right now, I'm helping many of the most exciting startups that I know to…

Patrick Morgan

So we are, you know, in the process of figuring this out collectively as a team. For the most part, what I'm recommending now is that this is just another internal repo within the company and the engineers can pull that repo and they can have the code locally on their machine and they can point…

Speaker 2

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