Charlie Baker

Things Charlie Says on Podcasts

He is the president of the NCAA, a role he took on in March 2023 after eight years as the 72nd governor of Massachusetts. His NCAA agenda centers on stabilizing college sports through the NIL era: he pushes for federal rules on name, image and likeness deals, defends the NCAA's position on transfer portal and eligibility limits, and argues for guardrails around booster-funded pay and the roster changes it is driving across football and other sports. He appeared on The Pivot Podcast for a wide-ranging conversation on NIL, conference realignment, the transfer portal, the growth of women's sports, and where politics should and shouldn't intersect with college athletics. He is also known for being unusually active and candid on social media, regularly replying to fans and reporters directly about NCAA decisions.

Where to Find Them

Charlie Baker has been a guest on HBR IdeaCast , Pivot Podcast , The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk , HBR On Leadership , The Journal. and The Chris Voss Show .

Recently: “Charlie Baker NCAA President talks the state of college football, responds to Ryan Clark about LSU, NIL shaking up the system, growth of women's sports, political influence on of NCAA rules and solution to college NFL chaos.” on Pivot Podcast (September 2026); “NCAA President on a New Era for College Sports” on The Journal. (June 2025); “Former MA Governor Charlie Baker on Solving Complex Problems” on HBR On Leadership (September 2024); “The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Results: Getting Beyond Politics to Get Important Work Done by Charlie Baker, Steve Kadish” on The Chris Voss Show (October 2022); “487: Governor Charlie Baker - A Conversation With The Most Popular Governor In America” on The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk (August 2022); “Leadership Lessons from a Republican Governor in a Blue State” on HBR IdeaCast (May 2022).

What They Said

“I talk to kids all the time, and I very rarely talk to kids who think the current environment is good for them.” — Charlie Baker, Pivot Podcast

Baker had just walked through the 2023 lawsuit, brought after the NCAA told a player transferring for the third time in three years to catch up academically first, that produced today's unlimited transfer rule. Asked whether the NCAA is in better shape than when he arrived, he pointed at the athletes. His examples are the loss of team continuity and players getting pressured about next season two or three weeks into this one.

Pivot Podcast · 2026-09-07 Permalink → Listen →
Pivot Podcast Around 17:08 into the episode
Charlie Baker

So do you guys know the history of how we ended up with that transfer rule?

Fred Taylor

No, sir.

Charlie Baker

…times you transfer, the less likely you are to graduate in four or five years. But right now, that's the federal standing that we all have to operate under. And it's one of the things that gets fixed in the Protect College Sports Act, which is it goes back to the transfer once, play right away. Transfer again, it's got to be and play right away. It's got to be because something happened. But I talk to kids all the time, and I very rarely talk to kids who think the current environment is good for them. Because the inability to create culture and continuity or to know who you're going to be playing with next year is a problem. But the other thing that's a problem is you have so many kids who have pressure on them. Literally, you know, two, three weeks into the season, they got people starting to gnaw on their ankle about where are you going to play next year. And I've talked to plenty of…

Ryan Clark

For you, Charlie, having only been at the position for three years, do you see the NCAA in a better place now than right before you started this job?

Charlie Baker

Well, I mean, we have taken all kinds of legal liability off the books. And we're paying for it. We did figure out. Way to do rev share, which was really important to me. We did figure out a way to create core guarantees and post-eligibility health insurance. We have been a pretty significant voice…

Ryan Clark

I'm from the South, and I know, right, and we all are: Georgia, Florida, Louisiana, football is a religion. And if I have the alum that's the judge on a certain case, and my quarterback is Trinidad Chambliss, and I want him to come back for another year, and I can control it, he's going to get…

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