Shayle Kann

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Partner at Energy Impact Partners, where he leads the Frontier Fund investing in decarbonization technology. He previously built and ran GTM Research, the market-intelligence arm of Greentech Media, through its acquisition by Verisk Analytics. Hosts the weekly energy podcast Catalyst, and has appeared as a guest on shows including Volts and This Week in Startups.

Where to Find Them

Shayle Kann hosts Catalyst with Shayle Kann , hosts Interchange Recharged , hosts The Energy Gang , hosts The Green Blueprint , writes Watt It Takes and writes Steel For Fuel . They have also been a guest on Volts (2 times) , Climate Rising , This Week in Startups , Energy Evolution and Zero: The Climate Race . They also write for Shayle Kann on Substack.

Recently: “Can natural gas supply handle the AI boom?” on Catalyst with Shayle Kann (October 2026); “The truth about data center water usage” on Catalyst with Shayle Kann (October 2026); “ERCOT batteries: boom, bust, or rebound?” on Catalyst with Shayle Kann (October 2026); “Anduril's vision for powering maritime defense” on Catalyst with Shayle Kann (September 2026); “AMA: Fuel cells, geopolitics, and the solar growth curve” on Catalyst with Shayle Kann (September 2026); “Do data centers actually increase electricity prices? No...and yes” on Catalyst with Shayle Kann (September 2026).

What They Said

“I think people are undercounting the grid and utilities, particularly in AI world.” — Shayle Kann, Catalyst with Shayle Kann

Asked for a hot take at the end of an AMA episode, Kann pushes against the now-standard story that the grid cannot keep up, so everything gets built behind the meter. He grants that a lot of behind-the-meter capacity is coming. His argument is about timing: utility planning runs on multi-year regulatory cycles that have only recently spun up, and the market is not pricing in what happens once they do.

Catalyst with Shayle Kann · 2026-09-17 Permalink → Listen →
Catalyst with Shayle Kann Around 20:01 into the episode
Shayle Kann

…can be driven down to virtually nothing. And then the fact that you're in that nether region may not hurt quite as much. So I think the bet you'd have to make for CNI solar to really take off is like economics look great, plus you can radically reduce the cost stack via AI and derivative stuff.

Max Savage Levenson

And the last question for you, we're going to do a catalyst version of Subway Takes. What is your hot take on energy right now?

Shayle Kann

I think people are undercounting the grid and utilities, particularly in AI world. Like there's this narrative that has arisen that, you know, the grid can't keep up and it's slow. And so everybody's going to build everything behind the meter. And to be clear, like, I think we're going to see a ton of behind the meter capacity get built.

Max Savage Levenson

Yeah.

Shayle Kann

But I also think that I think it's worth appreciating the decision cycles that occur in electricity and how, you know, it is not the fastest reacting sector because there is this whole process utilities go through with their regulators and they submit integrated resource plans and so on. And that…

Max Savage Levenson

Nice. Well, those are all the questions we have for you today. This was fun. Thanks very much.

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