Things Adam Says on Podcasts

…everybody gets to be more creative. And so people tend to love it actually when they get to the other side, even though in the middle, they're like, ooh, I don't know how I feel about it. Cause, you know, because I really loved being a programmer the way I was a programmer two years ago, you know?

Have you seen any large companies that have like at least started to take this on or switch toe?

Yeah. And I, and I, I, I, I feel like you have such a good like your thumb on this type of stuff because I'm, I'm just, I keep thinking about big companies like LinkedIn. And once they get this, something like this in place, what do they do with? I just looked it up. They have 10,500 engineers. And…

I don't, I don't know. Nobody knows. And here's my guess: my belief is that the answer is yes, they can. What we don't know is what that is yet. Because what happens when you get this increase? Like what happens when a system changes that dramatically, when that order of magnitude jump occurs?…

Yeah.

…because you're talking about those, those, those elements of like, of trust, of repeatable automation, right? Like, how do I get the system to behave the same way every time as we go through this process, regardless of who the engineer or the product person is that's putting in the inputs, right?

…that trust, or let's say we want to standardize the process for something that happens over and over again. I think most people would agree with that being something that they needed. But in the same regard, a lot of people might look at a software factory as just being like a slot factory, right?

I have a question about like specifically companies that have lots of engineers and are sort of like looking at like, how do we tackle this, right? You, like, you just gave an example of like 10 engineers, but I think about like, I remember hearing a stat that like LinkedIn has like 300 engineers…

Yeah, man, that's a good question. And I, I sort of believe that there's two emerging frontiers happening in AI. So like one frontier is the labs and all the things that they're doing. The other frontier is the answers to these questions. You know, like, how do we as regular mortal? You know, like…

Have you seen any large companies that have like at least started to take this on or switch toe?

…for the most part is that it is a slop factory. And so if somebody comes and says to you, Hey, I have this technique that's going to make the slop factory go even faster. Are you in? You're like, absolutely not. You know, like the thing that's killing me, I do not want more of it. You know,

…300 engineers committing CSS every single day. You know, like just the scale of some of these things is like, what would you recommend to a company that has hundreds, thousands of engineers of like, like, how do you re-architect? How do you even start to change how you work with this type of stuff?

Have you seen any large companies that have like at least started to take this on or switch toe?

I've seen people who have started. I have seen no one who has finished. Okay. And that's, you know, and I think that's true even amongst my peers. You know, like there was an era, it's slowing down now, but I would say six months ago, I was averaging three calls a week from friends who, you know…

Yeah. And I, and I, I, I, I feel like you have such a good like your thumb on this type of stuff because I'm, I'm just, I keep thinking about big companies like LinkedIn. And once they get this, something like this in place, what do they do with? I just looked it up. They have 10,500 engineers. And…