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Per Erik Holsten

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Per Erik Holsten has been a guest on Industry Optimized (2 times) and The Energy Gang .

Recently: “AI in energy: How can new technology strengthen the resilience of energy systems? | From ADIPEC in Abu Dhabi” on The Energy Gang (November 2026); “Automation Extended: enabling industrial innovation with continuity” on Industry Optimized (September 2026); “Offshore Wind - Accelerating the Energy Transition” on Industry Optimized (September 2024).

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“We believe people in charge of AI rather than AI in charge of people.” — Per Erik Holsten, The Energy Gang

The host had said that even in heavily automated facilities, people will still need to be responsible for how the plant works. ABB's head of energy industries answers with the company's position on how far autonomy should go.

The Energy Gang · 2026-11-12 Permalink → Listen →
The Energy Gang Around 17:43 into the episode
Per Erik Holsten

…have an asset where safety is absolutely key, you would like to have a button to push in case you need to shut down your facility for some reason, right? So you have these type of things which will play into the equation of how AI will be developed. But I think it will play a big role, actually.

Ed Crooks

…in those facilities that are more heavily... Automated, there will still be a need for the people to be responsible. Yep. And so at the end of the day, and then if they're going to be responsible, they also need to understand how the plant works and to understand what they need to do to run it.

Per Erik Holsten

We believe people in charge of AI rather than AI in charge of people.

Ed Crooks

Per Erik Holsten, thank you very much indeed. For another perspective on AI and energy, I spoke to Chris Rezendes, who's the chief business officer of the industrial AI company Context Labs. And I asked him first of all what the company did in terms of serving the energy industry.

Chris Rezendes

First and foremost, our company was founded on a number of principles related to data integrity and the ability to trust data, to run data through autonomous systems, AI, or agentic systems. If you're going to consume data, you need to know as much as possible about that data. Not only its format…

Ed Crooks

Right, so give me some examples then of what that means in practice. What kind of things do energy companies use you to do?

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