David Hemphill

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Product engineer who has built for the web for more than 20 years. Co-created Laravel Nova, the official admin panel for Laravel, built with Taylor Otwell, made the Beard CSS framework, and co-founded the Laravel continuous integration service Chipper CI. Makes Livemark, which generates specs from meetings and files, and Gent, a macOS task runner for AI-assisted coding. Appears on the North Meets South Web Podcast, including an episode on Gent, and on the Laravel Podcast, where he talks about AI-assisted development, music production and mechanical keyboards. Writes at davidhemphill.com.

Where to Find Them

David Hemphill hosts and writes North Meets South Web Podcast . They have also been a guest on Laravel Podcast .

Recently: “David Hemphill is Chasing Dopamine” on Laravel Podcast (October 2026); “Cash Money AI Power Hour” on North Meets South Web Podcast (September 2026); “Cash Money AI Power Hour” on North Meets South Web Podcast (September 2026); “Lobster rolls, boom parties, and crashed workers” on North Meets South Web Podcast (August 2026); “Gents on Gent with David Hemphill” on North Meets South Web Podcast (April 2026); “Gents on Gent with David Hemphill” on North Meets South Web Podcast (April 2026).

What They Said

“Apart from like boutique shops where that might be the marketing stance is that we only write code by hand. It's made by humans, you know, 100% vegan, you know, gluten-free code. There'll be that and there'll be markets for that. But for the most part, it's going to be mass-produced code.” — David Hemphill, Laravel Podcast

Laravel Nova co-creator David Hemphill, who says he's written almost entirely AI-generated code for two years, on why hand-written code is becoming a niche selling point rather than the norm.

Laravel Podcast · 2026-10-29 Permalink → Listen →
Laravel Podcast Around 41:19 into the episode
David Hemphill

…things. So I'm a few years up. I'm always a few years ahead of probably where, you know, the central point or the like the I don't want to say average developer, but I don't, the, the less AI pill developers or whatever. So there's a time, but it feels like for me, this is an inevitability that

Matt Stauffer

this is where the industry is moving.

David Hemphill

Apart from like boutique shops where that might be the marketing stance is that we only write code by hand. It's made by humans, you know, 100% vegan, you know, gluten-free code. You know what I mean? There'll be that and there'll be markets for that. But for the most part, it's going to be mass-produced code. And that's kind of what we're seeing, like a little bit of an industrial revolution as far as code writing is, and I just, that's going to be the case. And especially maybe at these bigger companies, you're, there's the stats when they're running the reports, who's doing the most PRs, who's making the most impacts. It's going to be the AI people because they can, all their time is not spent writing the code. It's, it's their shipping things. They're interacting with teams, putting the ideas together, making sure it is testable, verifiable, secure. Not necessarily that they're just writing every bit of it.

Matt Stauffer

Yeah. It's interesting. I'm thinking about that. I've never worked at a place where anybody counts commits lines of code or PRs. We've had clients who do it, and I've every single told them, time told them, that's really unhealthy. And honestly, it's been our unhealthiest clients who have counted…

David Hemphill

You know, that's just another of the chasing focus and things.

Matt Stauffer

Where's the dopamine from building in a mechanical keyboard? That's what I need to know. I mean, is it just being done in a cookie? There's something

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