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Caleb Porzio

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Creator of Livewire, Alpine.js and Flux UI, open source tools that let Laravel developers build interactive frontends without leaving PHP. Writes and records Notes On Work, short reflections on building software and running an open source business. Appears on Mostly Technical, the Laravel Podcast, Syntax, The Changelog and The Business of Laravel.

“I don't think AI is going to do it, because I still don't trust AI. I love Opus so much. I really do. And I trust it more than any AI I've ever worked with before. But I just don't trust it to merge a pull request.” — Caleb Porzio, Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio “When I was working on Make VS Code Awesome, I said this has nothing to do with Laravel, I could ship it to the whole world. So let's do it for VS Code in general. And then the only people who bought it were Laravel people.” — Caleb Porzio, Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio “If I had twelve agents running at all times, that's just twelve slop cannons that I have to clean up after. I don't understand how you're doing this.” — Caleb Porzio, Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio

Where to Find Them

Caleb Porzio hosts and writes Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio , hosts Mostly Technical , writes North Meets South Web Podcast and writes Laravel Podcast . They have also been a guest on Syntax (Wes Bos & Scott Tolinski) , The Business of Laravel , The Panel , The Changelog , Talking Businessly , Remote Ruby and Thinking Elixir Podcast .

Recently: “By golly if I'm not all in on Opus” on Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio (October 2026); “What makes a man” on Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio (October 2026); “WHAT DID YOU EXPECT!” on Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio (October 2026); “Business is Catan (and im building something new)” on Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio (October 2026); “AI music is sooo good” on Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio (October 2026); “Are you gonna be the person who wants it the most” on Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio (October 2026).

What They Said

“I don't think AI is going to do it, because I still don't trust AI. I love Opus so much. I really do. And I trust it more than any AI I've ever worked with before. But I just don't trust it to merge a pull request.” — Caleb Porzio, Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio

Porzio on his maintenance backlog of support email, GitHub issues and pull requests. Scheduled agents haven't fixed it, because someone still has to look at the pile. What he says he needs is a human who bugs him about the things that need attention.

Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio · 2026-10-15 Permalink → Listen →
Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio Around 00:00 into the episode
Caleb Porzio

Yo. We need to talk about AI. What's the state of, you know, things? What's uh what's good? What models am I using? How's my codex workflow even going? Did I stick to any of the stuff that I thought I was gonna stick to? Well, I didn't. In fact, I've abandoned Codex entirely. It's over. It sucks. Opus 5.5 is life. When you look back on your life, what do you want to see? Do you want to see Codex? I didn't think so. There's so much out there for you. And all you have to do is switch to Claude. It was here all along. We knew it. We knew it since the beginning. Since the very beginning. Claude was there. It was there. When you thought that a terminal wouldn't be the way that you would work. And there was Claude. So, today, I want you to ask yourself, I want you to look deep into your monitor and ask yourself, what am I doing? Why am I using anything but Claude? Because you know what? It's about so much more than harnesses or computer use or any of that stuff or plug-ins or even cost. It's not even…

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“When I was working on Make VS Code Awesome, I said this has nothing to do with Laravel, I could ship it to the whole world. So let's do it for VS Code in general. And then the only people who bought it were Laravel people.” — Caleb Porzio, Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio

Porzio is starting a new design app and using the board game Catan as his plan: build the settlement, then upgrade it to a city. So he's launching to his Flux audience first, because the last time he went broad, the niche audience bought it anyway.

Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio · 2026-10-06 Permalink → Listen →
Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio Around 12:25 into the episode
Caleb Porzio

…podcast. The podcast is about to start. So yeah, here we go. Let's listen to Notes on Work. Today we're going to talk about business and Catan, settlers of Catan. And I checked right before recording this because I don't actually know how to pronounce it. Is it Katan? Is it Catan? Well, get ready.

Speaker 2

Katan.

Caleb Porzio

It's Katan. You heard it. So business is like Catan in every way, but where did this come from? One specific way. Backstory. I have been working on an app that is incredibly exciting to me. I am over the moon. This is an opportunity that I have not had yet, period. I haven't been this excited about building something since Flux, and I haven't had the opportunity to build a SaaS app ever myself. You know, it's like something I've always wanted to do, but I never saw anything that was like different or valuable enough. I don't know. It just nothing ever presented itself as like, I've made throwaway side projects. Like I've been inspired to make SaaS apps and I've made, you know, side projects and things for all sorts of things. And they just never turned into something that I really stood behind and shipped. But this is going to. It is. And it all started with me telling Philippe like how long ago, Philippe, like six months ago or something. Like your entire existence is now finding the very best way to…

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“If I had twelve agents running at all times, that's just twelve slop cannons that I have to clean up after. I don't understand how you're doing this.” — Caleb Porzio, Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio

Porzio, who makes the Livewire and Flux UI libraries, on people who say nobody should read the code anymore. He had just spent two weeks designing a card component for Flux by hand, because AI couldn't get it right.

Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio · 2026-09-25 Permalink → Listen →
Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio Around 00:00 into the episode
Caleb Porzio

All right, we got a lot of thoughts to get out here. Yesterday was Rails World, and DHH apparently gave a keynote about the end of the world. No, the end of Rails, the future of the world, the future, not about the end. I didn't watch the whole thing, and I'm going to today, so I don't want to talk about it too much because I am ill-informed. But I watched the beginning, and he kind of, you know, he makes a lot of sense. Like, he's painting this picture, funny metaphor I chose or analogy that he's talking about painting pictures, how people used to paint portraits for hundreds of years and iterate on that skill. And then, like, kind of overnight, it photographed just took their job away, you know, not overnight, but quickly. And then they had, if they want to stay a painter, they have to paint for art instead of portraiture, you know, for money to serve the purpose of somebody having their portrait encoded in history. Now, any family…

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