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CP Caleb Porzio Caleb Porzio Creator of Livewire, Alpine.js and Flux UI, open source tools that let Laravel developers build interactive frontends without leaving PHP. Writes and records No...

“When I was working on Make VS Code Awesome, I said this has nothing to do with Laravel, I could ship it to the whole world. So let's do it for VS Code in general. And then the only people who bought it were Laravel people.”

Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio · Laravel Ecosystem · October 2026

“When I was working on Make VS Code Awesome, I said this has nothing to do with Laravel, I could ship it to the whole world. So let's do it for VS Code in general. And then the only people who bought it were Laravel people.” — Caleb Porzio, Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio

Porzio is starting a new design app and using the board game Catan as his plan: build the settlement, then upgrade it to a city. So he's launching to his Flux audience first, because the last time he went broad, the niche audience bought it anyway.

Transcript

Notes On Work - by Caleb Porzio Around 12:25 into the episode
Caleb Porzio

…podcast. The podcast is about to start. So yeah, here we go. Let's listen to Notes on Work. Today we're going to talk about business and Catan, settlers of Catan. And I checked right before recording this because I don't actually know how to pronounce it. Is it Katan? Is it Catan? Well, get ready.

Speaker 2

Katan.

Caleb Porzio

It's Katan. You heard it. So business is like Catan in every way, but where did this come from? One specific way. Backstory. I have been working on an app that is incredibly exciting to me. I am over the moon. This is an opportunity that I have not had yet, period. I haven't been this excited about building something since Flux, and I haven't had the opportunity to build a SaaS app ever myself. You know, it's like something I've always wanted to do, but I never saw anything that was like different or valuable enough. I don't know. It just nothing ever presented itself as like, I've made throwaway side projects. Like I've been inspired to make SaaS apps and I've made, you know, side projects and things for all sorts of things. And they just never turned into something that I really stood behind and shipped. But this is going to. It is. And it all started with me telling Philippe like how long ago, Philippe, like six months ago or something. Like your entire existence is now finding the very best way to…

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