“Your net worth peak is actually a date, not a number. Just given the fact that your body is a decaying asset and its ability to convert that money into fulfillment and useful experiences declines. … And so more money means nothing at a certain point in your life.”

…a Miss America cookie cutter answer type thing that like people starting out do. They're not really thinking about it. It wasn't until later in life that I really was thinking about like, what does that mean? And what does the number mean? And is it even a number? Right. Is it really a date? When

you're talking about later in life, is that like in the last five years or that was when you were 32?

What was that moment that changed that where you realized there's a different way to live? Like, did you read something? Did you experience something where you're like, where you got smacked in the face and you're like, there's a better way, and this is where I'm going to carve out this new path.

Yeah, it wasn't like I, you know, I was on my horse on the road to Damascus and then I fell off it and got a vision. It was more like there were, there are many things. I read a book called Your Money or Your Life, which kind of introduced the concept that the best definition of money is something…

kind of is like that. It's sort of funny. Like the reason Sean and I aren't particularly investors, but we like having these investors on because it's sort of funny to see them take their rain man-like abilities to like analyze numbers, but they use it towards like other parts of life. And that's…