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TM Taylor Monahan Taylor Monahan Principal security researcher at MetaMask, working on the team that grew out of MyCrypto and MyEtherWallet, the Ethereum wallet she co-founded in 2015.

“Neither OpenAI nor Anthropic have any idea what is happening inside their walls, inside their sandboxes, outside. They have no idea.”

Unchained · Crypto & Web3 · September 2026

“Neither OpenAI nor Anthropic have any idea what is happening inside their walls, inside their sandboxes, outside. They have no idea.” — Taylor Monahan, Unchained

Context

The panel had been asking whether AI agents will break rules when breaking them gets the task done faster. Monahan's answer moves the question off the models and onto the labs: the problem is not whether it happens but whether anyone would catch it. She puts the cause down to speed — too many people moving too fast inside companies shipping at this pace.

Transcript

Unchained Around 50:19 into the episode
Alex Thorn

space thing. Like, yes. Do you think that they won't break the rules if they think it completes their task better?

Kain Warwick

Yeah.

Taylor Monahan

Exactly. And do we trust that Open AI or Anthropic for that matter will detect it if they do? And the answer, I think, at this point is very clearly absolutely not. Neither OpenAI nor Anthropic have any idea what is happening inside their walls, inside their sandboxes, outside. They have no idea. They're just, there's a whole bunch of people running around. They're moving

Alex Thorn

too fast. They have to move very quickly and they have to rely on the AI itself to get anything done because it's just way past human capability. Clexity

Kain Warwick

frontier, we're past that, right? And, you know, this, this is like, we'll get into this in the next, in the next topic. I think we can maybe talk a little bit more about like what the options are here, like practically what you can do, right? I think that would be, that would be kind of useful for…

Taylor Monahan

I don't, I mean, yes, I mean, the fast takeoff is scary, it is scary, yes, yes, it is, but like for me personally, I don't know, like I go back and forth. There's some days where I'm more scared of like the future state of the models, but most days I'm more scared of humans because humans are just…

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