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“People underestimate the Teamsification of Enterprise: nobody wants to use Microsoft Teams, but more people use Microsoft Teams than Slack because it's just there.”

Syntax (Wes Bos & Scott Tolinski) · Hands-On Engineering Podcasts · November 2026

“People underestimate the Teamsification of Enterprise: nobody wants to use Microsoft Teams, but more people use Microsoft Teams than Slack because it's just there.” — Wes Bos, Syntax (Wes Bos & Scott Tolinski)

Context

The Syntax hosts were asking whether GitHub's Universe announcements would pull developers back to Copilot. Wes argues that bundling and existing enterprise contracts, more than quality, will decide which AI tools win inside big companies.

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Syntax (Wes Bos & Scott Tolinski) Around 30:41 into the episode
Wes Bos

here, well, here's a question. Do you think this is going to, do you think these announcements of like, are going to pull people back to you? I mean, I think

CJ Reynolds

…already had enterprise plans. It's not like you drop that overnight. So I think it's like you're already locked into your plan. Yeah. So now you have all these other features. Like, why not use them instead of trying to adopt a whole new stack or get a different subscription somewhere else? I think

Wes Bos

people underestimate the Teamsification of Enterprise is that like nobody wants to use Microsoft Teams, but more people use Microsoft Teams than Slack because it's just there. And like we're, we're going to see it with like, I think Salesforce or something. I forget who it was, but one of these companies was just like, you can only use models through our Microsoft provider. You know, we're going to start seeing that. It's like, well, we, we pay for this plan and it includes like Google's doing this already as well. Like you pay for Google AI Ultra, you get YouTube premium with it. Yeah, yeah. And like cloud storage and photos and AI. Like you get it all. That's happening in enterprise as well. People are going to be like, well, we're already paying for. Yeah, we bought

Scott Tolinski

the meal. Now you have to eat it. Now we're just going

Wes Bos

to include it all. So I think people underestimate that the power of enterprise buy-in.

CJ Reynolds

Definitely. And they did say that if you're an enterprise, you can use all of the features that they announced today without a separate subscription. So that's definitely what they're doing. It

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